archited
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Same sentiment applies to the City re Planning, Building and Land solutions.
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Edmonton International Airport (EIA/YEG)
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occidentalcapital
Senior Member
KLM already flies to Amsterdam.
YEG has had service to London for decades and I would expect nothing less going forward...don't concede that to something only YYC can offer ... that is simply not the case. Take a look at the Flair effect where Edmonton now has air service to all provinces and 2 out of 3 territories - something only matched by Toronto. Edmonton is better positioned geographically to be a european hub than Calgary, so just wait and see, and in the meantime, support Flair and keep spreading the word about the fantastic attractions in Edmonton that international tourists want to see (if only they knew about them).
CaptainBL
Active Member
I'm sorry but I read this article differently...the way I read this is that thanks to the partnership with ONE, EIA will pass over to ONE the management of commercial properties so it can continue to focus on property development.....NOT so that it can focus on core airport operations such as route development. This still reads to me like EIA is all about land development, just not land and property management anymore. So no, I dont see this as a good thing, in fact, I see this as EIA doubling down on focusing on property development, which still is not its course business.
occidentalcapital
Senior Member
Where has this pernicious idea come from that YEG cannot be involved in land development?
Please see attached interview with Toronto Airport CEO who actively promotes their land development activities. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/bus...lans-when-she-took-over-pearson-airport-then/
Right now, its the name of the game to leverage your assets, to develop other sources of revenue to keep aircraft fees down as low as possible. YEG is off to an early start. Why on earth would you think this is a bad thing? Boggles the mind. This is the way of the future for airports across North America and we are fortunate to have leaders at EIA that actually understand the industry.
Please see attached interview with Toronto Airport CEO who actively promotes their land development activities. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/bus...lans-when-she-took-over-pearson-airport-then/
Right now, its the name of the game to leverage your assets, to develop other sources of revenue to keep aircraft fees down as low as possible. YEG is off to an early start. Why on earth would you think this is a bad thing? Boggles the mind. This is the way of the future for airports across North America and we are fortunate to have leaders at EIA that actually understand the industry.
CplKlinger
Senior Member
I don't read it as them being against YEG having development; they just prefer that a third party be in charge of overseeing said development. As far as I know, there aren't any regular contributors here who don't want to see more development at YEG.
tkoe_
Active Member
That's why it is good we have industry experts managing these assets and not keyboard warriors who think the lack of direct flights to Chicago, for example, is evidence that everyone at EIA must be incompetent.
CaptainBL
Active Member
That's correct and a very level head response without the "keyboard warrior"ness comments.
Land development = good
Focusing on land development while core business concrete KPIs perform poorly = not good
Can ONE or someone else focus on land development AND management while EIA focuses on and improves route development, which is their ultimate core business? = possible solution
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David A
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I suppose if one of your major assets is a lot of land, whether it is your main focus or not, you need to think about land development which can have important long term financial and other implications for the organization.
However, property management is another story. You probably do not want to focus too much on the day to day management after the land is developed. This makes sense to me.
However, property management is another story. You probably do not want to focus too much on the day to day management after the land is developed. This makes sense to me.
occidentalcapital
Senior Member
YEG is sitting pretty when it comes to air service in '22, with possible exception of a few US biz routes and a couple additional European destinations. I don't get it when people complain that YEG doesn't know how to attract flights because this seems to go against the actual evidence as shown over the past week of (unparalleled) route announcements. And I suspect there will be more to come.
ChazYEG
Senior Member
I agree, and that was my point up there. We're getting flights, good ones, lots of "sun destinations" and a few more Canadian connections. I'd like to see us get Minneapolis, Chicago, at least one major city in the US East Coast (NYC, Boston or DC) and maybe another major European route (London, possibly?). We should focus on retain and strengthen the routes we currently have, get more frequency on a lot of them, make these flights a staple of YEG. The best we can do is to give preference do Flair whenever possible and, eventually, they'll grow to become a stronger player and maybe add in some flights that other companies would never do. Other than that, the only path I see to flight expansion is to places either not served by YYC and/or YVR, or underserved.
It's not a matter of caving to YYC or whatever, it's just a good business strategy in very, very challenging times.
I still think that there's a focus issue with EIA's administration and a lot of communication issues between the CoE, EIA and other interested parties, and some degree of complacency and resignation regarding major destinations that can be addressed, but from a business perspective, these are minor, considering the relatively good results EIA has been yielding in the past few weeks.
TAS
Senior Member
I wonder if there will be a report coming from Edmonton Global in terms of the $12 million provided to them for flight attractions and which airlines or airports received some of that money.
Platinum107
Senior Member
Yeah, I'm really happy with the new routes as well! I think general annoyance and the inferiority complex can get to us all sometimes and cloud good things happening.
Gronk!
Senior Member
Would it hurt to look at the big picture and ask for more flights to Europe and Asia? I thinking London, Frankfurt, Tokyo, Hong Kong....
McEdmonton
New Member
Who's gonna give them those flights to Asia? Flair and Swoop aren't big enough, Air Canada won't even give them an international flight, and Westjet probably won't do it either. They might get some to Europe, but I highly doubt they're getting any flights to Asia anytime soon.
kcantor
Senior Member
while not disagreeing with you, i seem to recall at one time that there were "overflight issues" on routing through american airspace. i can also remember when too many passport stamps from places like panama and columbia could make us entry and/or connections problematic.