Flair Airlines General Discussion and Updates

[BrettB]

Flair has scheduled a 2023 outlook news conference for Wednesday so we'll know more then, I'm sure

 

[BASE]

Does anyone know how many aircraft Flair has based in Edmonton? From my quick look it looks like just 3 (all MAX)
C-FLRS

C- FFLZ

C-FLKI

Looks like two more are currently undergoing testing with Boeing so should be delivered soon (not sure where they will be based) C- FLDX & C - FLKZ

 

[BASE]

Exciting to see Flair announce they expect 7 further aircraft in the fleet by next summer. Domestic frequency improvements has something I have always hoped for so nice to see that also.

https://storage.googleapis.com/flyflair-cms-prod-storage/09_28_22_Summer_23_Schedule_Announcement_Press_Release_FINAL_VERSION_6706ea9b68/09_28_22_Summer_23_Schedule_Announcement_Press_Release_FINAL_VERSION_6706ea9b68.pdf

 

[Gronk!]

This would make Flair the country’s third-largest airline by seats flown and second-largest operator in some cities, including Montreal.

 

[EdmTrekker]

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Love to see it although Swoop seats can be lumped in with Westjet.

Anecdotally seeing less complaints about Flair on delays and other issues. The one I’ve seen a lot recently is issues with their online check-in system.

Hopefully they can keep filling planes and charge a decent amount for their seats ($49 for a trip anywhere is just crazy). Wonder if a YEG- New York route, being big for tourists, could be in their future even a couple times a week.

"WestJet is making a substantial addition to its fleet with the purchase of 42 aircraft as the airline plans to expand its low-cost offerings, with plans to add routes to sun destinations from cities across Canada." https://globalnews.ca/news/9166161/westjet-purchases-boeing-737-10-max-planes/

 

[occidentalcapital]

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"WestJet is making a substantial addition to its fleet with the purchase of 42 aircraft as the airline plans to expand its low-cost offerings, with plans to add routes to sun destinations from cities across Canada." https://globalnews.ca/news/9166161/westjet-purchases-boeing-737-10-max-planes/

Interesting to see WestJet focus on "low cost offerings" - speaks to the competition they are getting from Edmonton-based Flair.

 

[EdmTrekker]

Interesting to see WestJet focus on "low cost offerings" - speaks to the competition they are getting from Edmonton-based Flair.

No doubt - Edmonton is not a HUB or even a Focus City like Winnipeg or Halifax for WestJet. We rate as insignificant for Westjet. I think Edmontonians and people from Northern Alberta should turn our backs on Westjet.

 

[occidentalcapital]

No doubt - Edmonton is not a HUB or even a Focus City like Winnipeg or Halifax for WestJet. We rate as insignificant for Westjet. I think Edmontonians and people from Northern Alberta should turn our backs on Westjet.

Does WestJet actually say what areas they think of as hubs? Pretty sure Edmonton staff are at least WestJet staff while Winnipeg and Halifax are outsourced.

 

[EdmTrekker]

Does WestJet actually say what areas they think of as hubs? Pretty sure Edmonton staff are at least WestJet staff while Winnipeg and Halifax are outsourced.

WESTJET Wiki

 

[occidentalcapital]

WESTJET Wiki

I wouldn't say that's accurate.

 

[EdmTrekker]

Edmonton base specifically not listed but other "bases" are:

Published at 2300GMT 03OCT22
Flair Airlines in late-September 2022 filed initial changes to its domestic operation for Northern summer 2023 season, effective 26MAR23. Planned frequency comparison is based on operational frequencies in August 2022 vs planned schedule filing for summer season as of 02OCT22.

Calgary – Abbottsford eff 26MAR23 Increase from 14 to 21 weekly
Calgary – Kelowna eff 08APR23 Increase from 4 to 5 weekly, 7 from 08MAY23
Calgary – Kitchener/Waterloo eff 10MAY23 Increase from 6 to 7 weekly
Calgary – Montreal eff 09MAY23 Increase from 4 to 7 weekly (Originally scheduled 7 weekly in NS22 as of April 2022)
Calgary – Ottawa 07MAY23 – 06JUN23 Increase from 3 to 5 weekly
Calgary – Victoria eff 07APR23 Increase from 5 to 7 weekly
Kitchener/Waterloo – Deer Lake eff 09MAY23 Reduce from 4 to 3 weekly
Kitchener/Waterloo – Halifax eff 07JUN23 Reduce from 9 to 7 weekly (737 MAX 8 replaces 737-800)
Kitchener/Waterloo – Montreal eff 10JUN23 Increase from 2 to 4 weekly
Toronto – Calgary eff 07APR23 Increase from 9 to 17 weekly, 21 from 08MAY23
Toronto – Charlottetown eff 26MAR23 Reduce from 4 to 3 weekly
Toronto – Edmonton eff 26MAR23 Increase from 9 to 10 weekly, 14 from 07JUL23
Toronto – Montreal eff 26MAR23 Increase from 3 to 7 weekly, 12 from 07APR23
Toronto – Saint John eff 26MAR23 Reduce from 4 to 3 weekly
Toronto – Victoria 11JUL23 – 05SEP23 Increase from 2 to 3 weekly
Toronto – Winnipeg eff 26MAR23 Increase from 12 to 14 weekly
Vancouver – Calgary eff 26MAR23 Increase from 14 to 21 weekly
Vancouver – Edmonton eff 26MAR23 Increase from 15 to 19 weekly, 21 from 10MAY23
Vancouver – Kitchener/Waterloo eff 08MAY23 Increase from 6 to 10 weekly
Vancouver – Ottawa 26MAR23 – 05MAY23 Increase from 3 to 4 weekly
Vancouver – Saskatoon eff 13JUN23 Increase from 2 to 3 weekly
Vancouver – Toronto eff 26MAR23 Increase from 11 to 21 weekly
Victoria – Ottawa eff 10JUN23 Seasonal service scheduled 1 weekly, instead of 2 in NS22

Flair Airlines NS23 Domestic Frequency Changes – 02OCT22 — AeroRoutes

Published at 2300GMT 03OCT22 Flair Airlines in late-September 2022 filed initial changes to its domestic operation for Northern summer 2023 season, effective 26MAR23. Planned frequency comparison is based on operational frequencies in August 2022 vs planned schedule filing for summer season as of

www.aeroroutes.com

 

[BASE]

Looks like the Aeroroutes might have missed the Edmonton schedule updates. As noted in this thread https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1468479&start=700#p23489623

Edmonton as of now will be up to around 101 weekly departures for Flair for summer 2023 which is up from approx 66 in summer 2022 which is a nice jump with perhaps (hopefully) more to come.

 

[BASE]

Flair bringing some simulators for their use to Canada. Unfortunately being set up in Toronto which is tough to see. Edmonton is the HQ but they certainly aren’t afraid to have their maintenance set up in Calgary or Simulators in Toronto. I get that it’s operation is spread out across many bases but not at least getting the simulator is tough.

Flair Airlines on LinkedIn: Canada’s Flair Airlines selects Netherlands-based MPS for Boeing 737

Today, we are thrilled to announce our partnership with MPS, a leading airline flight simulator company, to deliver a first-of-its-kind training tool for...

www.linkedin.com

 

[EdmTrekker]

Flair Airlines is in talks to merge with ex-Boeing CEO’s SPAC.​

Flair Airlines is in talks to merge with ex-Boeing CEO’s SPAC - BNN Bloomberg

Flair Airlines Ltd., a low-cost Canadian airline, is in talks to go public through a merger with New Vista Acquisition Corp., a blank check-firm backed by a former Boeing Co. chief executive officer, according to people with knowledge of the matter.

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

 

[occidentalcapital]

Flair Airlines is in talks to merge with ex-Boeing CEO’s SPAC.​

Flair Airlines is in talks to merge with ex-Boeing CEO’s SPAC - BNN Bloomberg

Flair Airlines Ltd., a low-cost Canadian airline, is in talks to go public through a merger with New Vista Acquisition Corp., a blank check-firm backed by a former Boeing Co. chief executive officer, according to people with knowledge of the matter.

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

Perfect. I can't wait to buy some Flair stock.