Rossdale Centre | 50m | 15s | Five Oaks Inc. | Dub Architects Ltd.

[constance_chlore]

We know there is sacred ground for the Papaschase Cree and other First Nations in the Rossdale Flats, but do we know what the geographic extent is? Does it encompass this area?

I get the cynicism. Many of the settler NIMBYs who live in the area and object to this project ostensibly due to the area's importance to Indigenous people wouldn't be so keen to apply #LandBack to their own homes.

But in any case, one would think after the whole Camsell deal, Five Oaks would have the sense to understand the importance of Indigenous consultation—even if from a purely self-interested, PR-oriented perspective.

 

[YEG imagineer]

If this is true, you would think that after the Prairie Sky Gondola and the mess that project went through because of lacking engagement, there would be more consideration for engagement here?

Regardless of one's personal gripes or jadedness towards the topic, this is an area where it's important that engagement with indigenous residents and people happens for multiple reasons. It's just a fact. Let's not have another project go under cause of ignorance please.

Just to clarify Platinum107, engagement in two streams (general public and indigenous) was to begin after council confirmed the leases of land for the future upon successful engagement. We had indigenous board member, indigenous engagement leaders, support from the Papaschase band, etc. it was not from lack of engagement. It was the city pulling the carpet from under our feet after we had been doing everything and more that the city wanted. Council expected us to do the full engagement at great cost without a land guarantee. The city at the end could have said, thank you after and run with our plan. No developer or group would ever go ahead with that as a moving target.

 

[Platinum107]

Just to clarify Platinum107, engagement in two streams (general public and indigenous) was to begin after council confirmed the leases of land for the future upon successful engagement. We had indigenous board member, indigenous engagement leaders, support from the Papaschase band, etc. it was not from lack of engagement. It was the city pulling the carpet from under our feet after we had been doing everything and more that the city wanted. Council expected us to do the full engagement at great cost without a land guarantee. The city at the end could have said, thank you after and run with our plan. No developer or group would ever go ahead with that as a moving target.

Ahh I see, thank you for the clarification. That does sound pretty unreasonable on the city's part.