DutchBoy
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The southwest extension the next priority. Maybe by “big push”, we have different standards
– https://www.edmonton.ca/projects_plans/transit/nw-lrt.aspx
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The southwest extension the next priority. Maybe by “big push”, we have different standards
– https://www.edmonton.ca/projects_plans/transit/nw-lrt.aspx
yeggator
Active Member
When the city opens the new NAIT station, since it'll be much further from the PEA intersection and the trains can travel through it more quickly (and also without switching tracks), do you guys think that could mitigate the need for a grade-separation at PEA/106 Street?
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Avenuer
Senior Member
Good catch, I think intersection impacts will decrease as trains will be able to cross much more quickly than with the current location of the NAIT Station.
IanO
Senior Member
A nice reminder video
Coolstar
Senior Member
Any timeline for an extension to St Albert?
IanO
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Edmcowboy11
Senior Member
I still hope that St.Albert will be wise and partner up Edmonton to immediately extend the LRT into St.Albert rather than waiting till the line is built to start construction or worse just planning.
cliffapotamus
Active Member
St Albert has actually been pretty pragmatic regarding this; they have a ROW reserved along St Albert Trail, with 3-4 station locations identified. The ROW has been fleshed out to the point that they know what side of the road the train will be on, and a basic idea of how traffic lanes will fit around stations. My understanding is that the soundwall movement that happened last summer was also in anticipation of the train, widening the roadspace so they can fit the train along the road. They have plans for it buried on their website somewhere (i'm not used to how they organize their stuff, i tried refinding it but gave up sorry) but yeah, they actually have a plan in place for LRT, so hopefully when the time comes they won't be left scrambling.
That being said, I think St Albert has a role to play in getting the Campbell Road extension built. The line coming out of Blatchford has design work done, but is not set in stone. there is still land aquisition, engineering work, and a whole host of neighbours to be won over to supporting LRT in their backyards. It is still going to take a lot of political capital to get that built. Having St Albert advocate for the line, especially 'phase II' after Castle Downs, would be hugely helpful in getting funding from other levels of government. i think this would be fair, as that second leg is largely to benefit them. cooperation and extra advocacy is a fair ask IMO.
ChazYEG
Senior Member
Especially because partnering with Edmonton and doing concurrently would help them lower costs.
monrose
New Member
This made me want to do some digging! I actually just searched LRT on the St. Albert website and I found that they are in stage 2 of LRT planning already. They've identified the route and stations, they aren't too bad in terms of location imo. Downtown St. Albert is beautiful but it sure is DEAD (when I've visited anyways). I'm still longing to go to the farmers market.
Although there isn't really a timeline as to when St. Albert will look into building this extension, I think the fact that they're in stage 2 of planning is a good indicator that they want to move in this direction. However, I've heard from a classmate who lives there that the people are pretty hard to sway in terms of transit. Hopefully the two cities can work together on this, this has mutual benefit for a lot of reasons. I would love to be able to take the train from Castle Downs to St. Albert downtown to enjoy the farmers market and beyond!
EdmTrekker
Senior Member
The video of the 137 Avenue station shows a small station on either side of 127th street. How will that work? And along the route there are other stations that seem to be only for 1 direction instead of a single station. Why is that?
Airboy
Senior Member
Interesting that they are showing one of the stops right above the Sturgeon river.
Preliminary work has been done on the alignment. The sound wall along the section from Hebert to Sturgeon rd was moved make a couple of meters over the last 2 years.
Preliminary work has been done on the alignment. The sound wall along the section from Hebert to Sturgeon rd was moved make a couple of meters over the last 2 years.
archited
Senior Member
I think all design elements are simply placeholders -- the final results will be much different
cliffapotamus
Active Member
i think you're referring to the station at 127 street and 137 avenue where the entrances are on either side of the intersection? The metro line to St Albert is supposed to be trenched for long sections, to avoid traffic issues and intersections. that particular station is underground, the two visible sections at the intersection are the entrances to the platform. They've also got split platform stations in one or two spots; the Valley Line has these at Hollyrood and Avonmore. one platform for each direction, staggered to fit the available space.
Like Archited said, it's all preliminary right now. This extension is the next big push (as opposed to the Capital Line south, which is pretty much shovel-ready according to the city, not much redesign to do there hopefully) and there's gonna be some tweaks and changes to the route design along the way. i think a lot of the design we see in that video is a reaction to the extant Metro Line and it's horrendous inability to cross traffic effectively. I remember there being a lot of discussion around trenching, which is cheaper than tunnelling, but still way more expensive than being at grade. they did it at key intersections only. It will be interesting to see if any of those priorities change, ie more trenching and fewer crossings (maybe Castle Downs Road at 153?) or if cost becomes the deciding factor and things move back to grade. I think as the Valley Line West wraps up 2025-2027 the debates around that will heat up again as this project comes back into view.
Foolworm
Active Member
It would be a minor miracle if even the section to Castle Downs went through. At a minimum, the bridge over the CN yards will probably be held up until Yellowhead Trail is done, and the depot at Heritage Valley has to be built to store the extra trains needed.
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