Edmonton City Centre Mall (Renovations) | ?m | 2s | LaSalle Investment Management

[Barnaby]

Rumor has it that a developer with projects adjacent to and within proximity of the old Bay section is looking to partner with the current owner to develop a tower or two on the old Bay section of the mall (they have an investor on board).

Hey! I was just asking about that. Let the record show that it was my idea.

 

[Avenuer]

Hey! I was just asking about that. Let the record show that it was my idea.

Redeveloping that part of the mall makes total sense, just glad to hear that there is some real money out there looking at doing just that right now.

 

[Kosy123]

Alright let the tower height guessing game begin! Let me start the baseless speculation.

Imma put two towers, all above 150 m with one at 200 with an anchor tenant of Zara.

 

[Barnaby]

The mall needs people living right next door (or on top) to survive. This paired with a RHW residential tower could really make this area feel much more alive.

I'm in favour no matter what it ends up looking like.

 

[archited]

I don't have the figures at hand but like the ICE district tower the height for towers is constrained by existing footings and in-place columns and considering that the design pre-dated the closing of the municipal airport, I suspect that we are looking at 30 storeys max.

 

[Clearshades]

If one has to guess, I would make a safe bet, it would not supercede the the current towers which I would be more than happy. That will tremendously add density both population and skyline.

 

[IanO]

I just found the new rendering for this exciting world-class iconic project.

 

[Gronk!]

Rumor has it that a developer with projects adjacent to and within proximity of the old Bay section is looking to partner with the current owner to develop a tower or two on the old Bay section of the mall (they have an investor on board).

Good news if the rumor is true!

I foresee an extension of the Delta Hotel as part of a mixed-use equation with residential plus that damnable parkade will finally be demolished in favor of underground parking. Not sure what happens with Landmark Cinema though.

 

[MacLac]

Who is 'One'... local?

One Properties…..Darryl Katz…..see the “Citizen” as one of their buildings

 

[MacLac]

Rumor has it that a developer with projects adjacent to and within proximity of the old Bay section is looking to partner with the current owner to develop a tower or two on the old Bay section of the mall (they have an investor on board).

The “investor on board” is the part I like…..not just a pie-in-the-Sky vision…..

 

[kcantor]

I don't have the figures at hand but like the ICE district tower the height for towers is constrained by existing footings and in-place columns and considering that the design pre-dated the closing of the municipal airport, I suspect that we are looking at 30 storeys max.

Not necessarily…

Even using the existing columns and footings, both live loads and dead loads for residential use are less than for office so that probably gets you from 30 to 40 and perhaps more if you convert to a shallower floor plate which also works better for residential.

If you excavate for additional footings and band the existing columns for additional capacity, you could probably go as high as you’re comfortable pre-selling or renting. That’s what they had to do for the Switch at Station Lands.

 

[kcantor]

One Properties…..Darryl Katz…..see the “Citizen” as one of their buildings

One Properties is the rebranding of WAM (Western Asset Management) and its principal owner is Darren Durstling.

Ice District Properties which did the development around Rogers Place and Ford Hall was a joint venture between One Properties and KGRE (Katz Group Real Estate).

 

[Clearshades]

Not necessarily…

Even using the existing columns and footings, both live loads and dead loads for residential use are less than for office so that probably gets you from 30 to 40 and perhaps more if you convert to a shallower floor plate which also works better for residential.

If you excavate for additional footings and band the existing columns for additional capacity, you could probably go as high as you’re comfortable pre-selling or renting. That’s what they had to do for the Switch at Station Lands.

While correct on the explanation, I would suspect they will play with the existing intended load as there are plenty of real estates within that mall for future towers.

 

[kcantor]

While correct on the explanation, I would suspect they will play with the existing intended load as there are plenty of real estates within that mall for future towers.

Not all of that real estate was designed for future towers of any height and what was may not be where they’re wanted today…

 

[IanO]

^bingo. I thought a few years ago now that someone confirmed that foundations were not present for those original proposals?