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What do you think of this project?

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Gronk! said:
There are also the small matters of (1) connecting 76 Ave on both sides of the tracks and (2) HSR/hyperloop line along the QE2
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I think a HSR or Hyperloop line and station would most likely begin south of 80th avenue when considering the space constraints between 80-Whyte Ave (unless they decide to somehow start the line north of Whyte Avenue). 76 avenue could be connected with an underpass underneath the HSR/Hyperloop rail ROW
 
If CP could be awakened from its slumber, there is a great opportunity to work with the City to put 76th Avenue through their land at grade AND at the same time develop a kind of Transportation/Tech hub south of the 76th Avenue crossing... thereby opening up the land north of the new 76 crossing to expand the historic theme of Old Strathcona. A win for Old Strathcona; a relief corridor for Whyte Avenue traffic, now having the 76th Avenue option -- a short 6 blocks south (a BIG community win); a win for CPR (repurposed land) and development opportunities and a player in high speed rail (land owner).
 
archited said:
If CP could be awakened from its slumber, there is a great opportunity to work with the City to put 76th Avenue through their land at grade AND at the same time develop a kind of Transportation/Tech hub south of the 76th Avenue crossing... thereby opening up the land north of the new 76 crossing to expand the historic theme of Old Strathcona. A win for Old Strathcona; a relief corridor for Whyte Avenue traffic, now having the 76th Avenue option -- a short 6 blocks south (a BIG community win); a win for CPR (repurposed land) and development opportunities and a player in high speed rail (land owner).
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I would like to emphasize BIG community win. Kids in Hazeldean and Ritchie are zoned for Allendale and McKernan for Jr High and Strathcona Composite for High School.

It would make life so much better if 76th Ave were to be connected.

Does anyone have any insight on if that may ever happen? Or who to lobby to encourage that it does?

(I note that both the Bike Plan and the Mass Transit Plan identify completing 76th Ave as a barrier to be overcome, but I’m guessing it’s all in CP’s hands?)
 
archited said:
If CP could be awakened from its slumber, there is a great opportunity to work with the City to put 76th Avenue through their land at grade AND at the same time develop a kind of Transportation/Tech hub south of the 76th Avenue crossing... thereby opening up the land north of the new 76 crossing to expand the historic theme of Old Strathcona. A win for Old Strathcona; a relief corridor for Whyte Avenue traffic, now having the 76th Avenue option -- a short 6 blocks south (a BIG community win); a win for CPR (repurposed land) and development opportunities and a player in high speed rail (land owner).
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I support this idea. Someone on Twitter was just commenting on the lack of pedestrian options east-west because of the rail yard. This would help with that issue too.
 
I think it's a good idea as well. Unfortunately, the rail companies are notoriously difficult to get them to cede property they own. If there's a cost to it, I suspect CP will pass; what's their incentive? (hint, they don't do anything just to be nice) I understand that this is a marshaling yard for them; if you put a road through at 76ave it may impede their ability to put longer trains together; think 50st. at SPF
 
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buildings said:
I think it's a good idea as well. Unfortunately, the rail companies are notoriously difficult to get them to cede property they own. If there's a cost to it, I suspect CP will pass; what's their incentive? (hint, they don't do anything just to be nice) I understand that this is a marshaling yard for them; if you put a road through at 76ave it may impede their ability to put longer trains together.
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Found this from 2017

Old Strathcona CP rail yard development goes quiet 2 years after major announcement - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca

Residents and businesses in the Old Strathcona area are eager to see the Canadian Pacific Rail Yard developed, but since 2015, they haven't had any updates.
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There is a possibility at least. I don’t remember this announcement.
 
Probably a huge reach: what if the City pushed so hard on the 50th overpass as a strong gesture of good faith for CPR to finally partner up on pushing their Strathcona Junction plans forward?

I understand realistically CPR's gain is fairly minimal but it will make their shunting operations that much simpler.
 
Significant liability and safety issues though; those would need resolution.
 
An area redevelopment plan was completed in 2012 and 76 ave was actually being considered for pedestrian/bike route through the yards.
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Unfortunately the yard is still actively used by CPKC, and will be for the foreseeable future. A 76 Ave connection is about as likely as a 113A street connection through CN‘s Walker Yard.
 
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