Fetch
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I believe so. The ones who had Al Centro.
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Energy Square - Reclad/Update - 10109 – 106th Street NW / 10550 – Jasper Avenue
- Thread starter IanO
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kcantor
Senior Member
there was/is a previous version of a main floor reconfiguration that extended the actual lobby to jasper (as opposed to providing access through a cafe).
the primary benefit was to provide decent handicap access which currently comes from the loading dock at the lane. there is an epcor vault that precluded reconfiguring the existing entry.
secondary benefits would have been an ability for the building to acquire a jasper avenue address; the potential for some of main floor to extend to the sidewalk (the parkade/foundations already extend that far; adding a potential two story atrium space outside the existing tower footprint (its pretensioned precast slab floors preclude that within the existing footprint)…
what’s being proposed here is - to me - just strange when there is so much potential to be really creative instead of hanging problematic gingerbread over the existing curtainwall leading to a really awkward mashup of incompatible and poorly serviced spaces…
supaflyryguy
Active Member
The area needs another coffee shop about as much as it needs another dental clinic. The area is already overserved by existing, high-quality establishments. All this would do is dilute clientele making it less viable for everyone.
Unless there's something fundamentally unique about this cafe, I'm not sure it's necessary or sustainable.
IanO
Superstar
I'm expecting a Dalla light 'cafe', not a Coffee Bureau.
But I get your point that if it it just another coffee shop that it might hinder rather than help.
But I get your point that if it it just another coffee shop that it might hinder rather than help.
Greenspace
Senior Member
^It is more of a roastery and wine bar, so will be another great late night option in the area hopefully.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Also, as this area sees 2000+ new residents in the next few years, some new businesses will be needed. But yeah, don’t want to see anything cannibalized in the shorter term.
Avenuer
Senior Member
Yup, Antonio will finally have his own roastery for his beans, as he's been outsourcing them to a roaster in Calgary since he started Da Capo. There is no coffee roastery Downtown (closest are On the Edge in Boyle Street and Iconoclast at the Oliver Exchange) so this will be a first in that regard.
Greenspace
Senior Member
Speaking of Bar Oro...assuming temporary space. This is the Vignettes space in Capital Apartments.
IanO
Superstar
Avenuer
Senior Member
No doubt, nearly 20,000 sq. ft. of space in a completely empty tower, a great start! Coupled with Bar Oro, which should be opening within the next few months, and Energy Square will be back from the dead.
David A
Senior Member
It would be really good if they could get something on the main floor soon, that sign has been up for a while now.
I had looked at a space there several years ago, but it wasn't for me - old dental offices with a warren of tiny spaces, but it looks like there are a lot of spaces that would be the right size for smaller businesses or organizations.
I had looked at a space there several years ago, but it wasn't for me - old dental offices with a warren of tiny spaces, but it looks like there are a lot of spaces that would be the right size for smaller businesses or organizations.
IanO
Superstar
Bar Oro forthcoming which will transform the look/feel.
Greenspace
Senior Member
I wonder if that's Alberta Health? They have moved their employee parking to the Westrich lots to the north, I know having parking tied to Energy Square as accessory use was contemplated.
roe_
Active Member
The glass in the Capital Apts. is a huge detractor for the commercial units. If you cannot see inside, you are unlikely to enter unless you are specifically going there.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Fencing up.
