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Not really a rendering, but there's this in the Capital Line South Fly-Through:
Stunning design. Does anyone know the architecture firm behind this?
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I doubt the design has been assigned to an architect yet.
I have no doubt that P3 will be the process under the UCP and teams are quietly being assembled in anticipation. But a new Government in 2023 might select another procurement process unless the UCP speed up the process and lock it in contractually for a P3 or some variation including “operation”. I don’t think they will be doing any detailed Functional Programming on this hospital. Look for the private sector to assist in contract specifications and AHS sidelined as much as possible.
 
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Haven't heard of anyone working on this project yet other than civil work. And even then if you don't know what is being built you are going to have to anticipate loads.
 

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Not really a rendering, but there's this in the Capital Line South Fly-Through:
Few things are more Edmonton than a render of a billion-dollar mass-transit extension that shows how efficiently we can move people through low density sprawl, greenbelts, and utility corridors without the risk of having any stops where people live, work, shop, or generally need to go on any sort of regular basis.

"Ride LRT! But also, make sure you have a car if your travel plans are anything other than commuting between a hospital and post-secondary institution."
 

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Bang on.

I've never really understood our strategy other than wanting to connect major destinations (a good thing) but ignoring or discounting areas with significant density and demand 10 years ago.
 

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I have no doubt that P3 will be the process under the UCP and teams are quietly being assembled in anticipation. But a new Government in 2023 might select another procurement process unless the UCP speed up the process and lock it in contractually for a P3 or some variation including “operation”. I don’t think they will be doing any detailed Functional Programming on this hospital. Look for the private sector to assist in contract specifications and AHS sidelined as much as possible.
They have a pretty extensive team of consultants that have been doing a lot of planning (including functional programming) for a few years now. AHS is quite heavily involved in the whole process. Not sure if the exact delivery model has been decided yet, but like you said, a new government could completely change everything.
 

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Few things are more Edmonton than a render of a billion-dollar mass-transit extension that shows how efficiently we can move people through low density sprawl, greenbelts, and utility corridors without the risk of having any stops where people live, work, shop, or generally need to go on any sort of regular basis.

"Ride LRT! But also, make sure you have a car if your travel plans are anything other than commuting between a hospital and post-secondary institution."
Won't the hospital be a place where people work?
 

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Not to mention the physician clinics and other professional buildings in close proximity to the hospital.
 

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Few things are more Edmonton than a render of a billion-dollar mass-transit extension that shows how efficiently we can move people through low density sprawl, greenbelts, and utility corridors without the risk of having any stops where people live, work, shop, or generally need to go on any sort of regular basis.

"Ride LRT! But also, make sure you have a car if your travel plans are anything other than commuting between a hospital and post-secondary institution."
bringing high quality transit to these areas is good in a vacuum, but the impact it has on the rest of the city needs to be considered. The suburbs need good transit for sure, but there are many other areas of the city that needed it a long time ago.
 

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bringing high quality transit to these areas is good in a vacuum, but the impact it has on the rest of the city needs to be considered. The suburbs need good transit for sure, but there are many other areas of the city that needed it a long time ago.
At the very least, if they are building these communities at the same time as the LRT, it should be transit focused and transit oriented development. This community has a great opportunity, there is no other recent examples in the City of a community being built at the same time as a good transit connection. Often times the argument for the car dependant and car oriented nature of the suburbs is lack of mobility and transit in these new areas.

Early indications show that a few transit oriented buildings are being built/planned, but overall, it seems like a complete missed opportunity, and we are building more of the same. If that is the case, its hard to justify a new-build area getting transit before communities that have ben waiting since we got our first LRT line. Why is an area that is fairly low/medium density and car oriented getting transit over areas that are slightly less dense, but are older and lend themselves to densification? New suburbs will not have an opportunity to retrofit/densify itself for the next 40 years, no one is going to tear down new buildings for TOD. The same can't be said for Northwest, there is plenty of housing stock there that has reached the end of it's life, and would not be missed in redevelopment and densification.
 

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They have a pretty extensive team of consultants that have been doing a lot of planning (including functional programming) for a few years now. AHS is quite heavily involved in the whole process. Not sure if the exact delivery model has been decided yet, but like you said, a new government could completely change everything.
Yep it's going to be an interesting one--hell, even the recent energy prices should this trend continue for the next 2-3 years could completely change the process if Alberta is bringing in surplus' to the tune of billions a year.
 

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