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[MacLac]

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Demographics that also exist in DT Montreal and Vancouver, which don’t have urban format IKEAs, even though their DTs both have 10x the population ours does.

Do they really though? Last year while staying at the Pinnacle DT…..4 out of 5 condo towers to the north of the hotel were 100% completely black….ZERO lights on…..makes you wonder how many people actually live in their DT compared to what units are owned

 

[IanO]

Population isn’t the key factor here, disposable income is. Having lived in both Yaletown and downtown Edmonton, I’ve noticed a clear difference in how much more spending power people my age (I’m 34) have in Edmonton. In Vancouver, it was hard to get friends together for dinner even a couple of times a month. Meanwhile here in Edmonton we eat out more than once a week without thinking twice. This also applies to shopping, hobbies, etc. An IKEA City wouldn’t just serve downtown; it would draw people from the entire northside and St. Albert.

I'm going to somewhat disagree with you here.

Most friends over the years (starting when I lived at Homer and Smythe back in 2002) went out a lot more there and often wanted to be out and about in the evenings, mind you that included far more active recreation too as part of the West Coast lifestyle. Even now when I go there, post-work and evenings are quite busy.

Part of that is due to less folks with kids until later in life versus here, which makes A BIG difference and the impact of the corporate centre versus a government town.

 

[David A]

I'm going to somewhat disagree with you here.

Most friends over the years (starting when I lived at Homer and Smythe back in 2002) went out a lot more there and often wanted to be out and about in the evenings, mind you that included far more active recreation too as part of the West Coast lifestyle. Even now when I go there, post-work and evenings are quite busy.

Part of that is due to less folks with kids until later in life versus here, which makes A BIG difference and the impact of the corporate centre versus a government town.

It probably also has something to do with the size of living spaces there which are smaller and the milder climate. Of course, a much higher income is needed to live there in their vertically gated communities than here.

Although even the higher income may not allow many to have a big enough space for kids, so there is disposable income and time to go out. However, at some point they may have to make a choice and move if they want kids.

 

[David A]

Was hopeful at one time this would have been in place for opening of LRT.

I still think this is a good plan and perhaps still the best one for it. Obviously the mall owner was not in a financial position to carry it out, so it didn't happen.

Someone who can purchase this property at a lower price may have the ability to proceed with making the investment needed to make this place more attractive and more viable.

 

[Gronk!]

Please consider opening a Nations Experience in the old Bay space

Nations Experience to Open in Former Hudson’s Bay in Oakville

Nations Experience has leased the entire former Hudson’s Bay at Oakville Place with plans for a flagship grocer and Forever Young entertainment venue.

retail-insider.com

 

[NicolBolas]

Population isn’t the key factor here, disposable income is. Having lived in both Yaletown and downtown Edmonton, I’ve noticed a clear difference in how much more spending power people my age (I’m 34) have in Edmonton. In Vancouver, it was hard to get friends together for dinner even a couple of times a month. Meanwhile here in Edmonton we eat out more than once a week without thinking twice. This also applies to shopping, hobbies, etc. An IKEA City wouldn’t just serve downtown; it would draw people from the entire northside and St. Albert.

Northsider here.

As with many of my kind we avoid downtown like the plague. I think parking at Costco on 50st is terrible so I drive to Sherwood Park.

 

[David A]

Please consider opening a Nations Experience in the old Bay space

Nations Experience to Open in Former Hudson’s Bay in Oakville

Nations Experience has leased the entire former Hudson’s Bay at Oakville Place with plans for a flagship grocer and Forever Young entertainment venue.

retail-insider.com

This is a very good and interesting idea. It is easy to "avoid downtown like the plague" partly because there is not much unique or compelling for retail around now.

I suppose there are some people who have a phobia of downtown, but many more would come downtown if there was more interesting and quality retail ideas such as this here.

 

[NicolBolas]

This is a very good and interesting idea. It is easy to "avoid downtown like the plague" partly because there is not much unique or compelling for retail around now.

I suppose there are some people who have a phobia of downtown, but many more would come downtown if there was more interesting and quality retail ideas such as this here.

I would go downtown more if it was appealing.

I've traveled around the world, yeah you can't compare Edmonton to New York or Singapore, it will never be that alive. But when I was in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia even their downtown is more alive and surprisingly pretty comparable in terms of climate.

 

[Mesopotamia]

There needs to be a focus on constructing more residential buildings, creating more 3rd spaces, improving access (e.g. more LRT lines, free parking on weekends or weekday after hours), and above all safety with more police presence. The return to work mandates companies have been doing are useless because downtown will just become a ghost town after 5pm

 

[David A]

I would go downtown more if it was appealing.

I've traveled around the world, yeah you can't compare Edmonton to New York or Singapore, it will never be that alive. But when I was in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia even their downtown is more alive and surprisingly pretty comparable in terms of climate.

I understand the capital of Mongolia wasn't always as good as now, so perhaps there is hope for us too. Although it is a national capital, rather than a provincial one with a provincial government quite disinterested in it.

Probably good comparisons are similar sized Canadian cities and perhaps a couple of other mid sized provincial capital cities.

 

[Gronk!]

The Cornwall Centre in Regina has opened a downtown police office. I'm wondering if ECC should follow suit. Maybe EPS can take over the old Sport Chek space?

Cornwall Centre opens Regina Police Office downtown

Cornwall Centre debuts a Regina Police Service workspace to keep officers in the core, improve response times, and support a safer downtown Regina.

retail-insider.com

 

[ChazYEG]

I would go downtown more if it was appealing.

I've traveled around the world, yeah you can't compare Edmonton to New York or Singapore, it will never be that alive. But when I was in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia even their downtown is more alive and surprisingly pretty comparable in terms of climate.

It is an interesting perspective, but I would argue, as @David A Mentioned, that it is not a really good comparison. The general makeup of Canadian cities' urban fabric is vastly different than those from anywhere except North America, Australia, New Zealand and maybe parts of England and South Africa. No other place suffered with suburbanization + easy and cheap access to land and private vehicles, with little to no geographic constraints in the same scale.

 

[David A]

The Cornwall Centre in Regina has opened a downtown police office. I'm wondering if ECC should follow suit. Maybe EPS can take over the old Sport Chek space?

Cornwall Centre opens Regina Police Office downtown

Cornwall Centre debuts a Regina Police Service workspace to keep officers in the core, improve response times, and support a safer downtown Regina.

retail-insider.com

Seems like a good idea and it would be nice if we could also get new tenants like the ones mentioned in the article for the Cornwall Centre.

 

[IanO]

External ID
636764133-002
Job Type
Major Development Permit
Description
Alteration of (an) existing building(s), Other
Applicant
CANDEREL MANAGEMENT (WEST) INC.
Status
Intake Review
Class of Permit

Create Date
November 13, 2025
Approval Date

Location
1, 1 - EDMONTON CITY CENTRE NW Plan 1194TR Lot B 148, 1 - EDMONTON CITY CENTRE NW Plan 1194TR Lot A
Neighbourhood
DOWNTOWN

 

[bodsbods9090]

External ID
636764133-002
Job Type
Major Development Permit
Description
Alteration of (an) existing building(s), Other
Applicant
CANDEREL MANAGEMENT (WEST) INC.
Status
Intake Review
Class of Permit

Create Date
November 13, 2025
Approval Date

Location
1, 1 - EDMONTON CITY CENTRE NW Plan 1194TR Lot B 148, 1 - EDMONTON CITY CENTRE NW Plan 1194TR Lot A
Neighbourhood
DOWNTOWN

What does this mean? Altering an existing building can mean many things...