Vijay19
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Haha a whole six people!! No offence, but man are you grasping at straws. I do respect your optimism through!
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Edmonton City Centre Mall (Renovations) | ?m | 2s | LaSalle Investment Management
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David A
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Lets put this in context, this specific space is a dead zone because no retail (a vacant department store covers 1/2 the block), street access tricky, LRT not up and running, people use pedway instead, etc ...
I am not trying to say it is busy, in fact I did not. What I was responding to what the picture that showed no one. Anyone can randomly take a picture at a certain time, but it does not mean no one is ever here.
It is not so much optimism, but some of over done pervasive negativism that really irks me. It is not helpful, nor it it entirely accurate. The recovery of downtown may be drawn out, but if you are there everyday like me, you can see it happening.
cmd uw
Active Member
That stretch 'died' when the Bay/Holt closed and they limited the vehicular access along 102. It's a weird dead zone. It'll be ripped up soon enough.
strata
Active Member
'The Last Of Us' Season 2 shoot location?
Could be a solid post-apocalypse Seattle.
Could be a solid post-apocalypse Seattle.
David A
Senior Member
As someone accused of being overly positive, my not so positive take on it is it will remain a dead zone until either the LRT is running or something fills some of that space.
Its not that there are no people downtown, its just that there is no reason to go to this specific area.
David A
Senior Member
This article is about another older mall, but I think it may have some ideas for City Centre too.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmo...-tenants-to-fight-canada-wide-slump-1.6787534
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmo...-tenants-to-fight-canada-wide-slump-1.6787534
Gronk!
Senior Member
I didn't get a chance for a closer look, but the 101 St entrance to ECC East (near TD) appears to be now reopened.
There were a lot more people wandering through ECC during the noon hour, almost at pre-COVID levels if I dare say so.
There were a lot more people wandering through ECC during the noon hour, almost at pre-COVID levels if I dare say so.
Greenspace
Active Member
I noticed that entrance re-opened as well.
I agree -- Daytime, lunch hours and Friday/Saturday evenings Downtown are starting to feel closer to pre-pandemic.
I agree -- Daytime, lunch hours and Friday/Saturday evenings Downtown are starting to feel closer to pre-pandemic.
ChazYEG
Senior Member
I echo that. Was there today for the first time in a while and it felt like "almost" normal. If only we were able to keep at least half of that level of traffic throughout the day, ECC would be an actually functional mall.
Overall, downtown is feeling a lot livelier than it has in quite some time, even with the still pretty chilly temperatures, there were quite some people out and about.
David A
Senior Member
I think the entrance reopening will help the mall. One of the things that devastated this mall, was unlike other malls in the city, a number of entrances were closed during COVID.
At one point it was almost harder to get into than a high security facility. Even if you were downtown and wanted to get something, it was easier to just go elsewhere.
At one point it was almost harder to get into than a high security facility. Even if you were downtown and wanted to get something, it was easier to just go elsewhere.
Gus Haynes
New Member
^During the initial few months of the pandemic, I worked in the mall and I had a hard time getting in.
I still find it pretty bad, to be honest -- i.e. trying to see a movie during an evening and not being able to access any entrances on 102 Ave or pedway connections at that time of day.
I still find it pretty bad, to be honest -- i.e. trying to see a movie during an evening and not being able to access any entrances on 102 Ave or pedway connections at that time of day.
Gronk!
Senior Member
101 St entrance to ECC East and TD renovations
David A
Senior Member
Now if TD could just get their space done soon, this area would be quite good.
David A
Senior Member
Some malls elsewhere in Canada are being innovative and coming up with various ideas on how to deal with more empty space. Some good ideas here.
ca.finance.yahoo.com
Malls turn to rollerskating pop-ups, haunted houses to boost traffic as anchor tenants disappear
Decline of in-person shopping, hit to sales and landlords’ revenues have put the future of malls into question
David A
Senior Member
I was looking for a decent shirt, so went to Winners today and noticed it was quite busy. In the past, I would have gone to some place like the Bay instead, but nothing like it within easy walking distance downtown any more, so their loss I guess and I spent my money elsewhere.