103 Avenue Civic Precinct Renewal

[archited]

So unimaginative -- compare this City effort to the one on Columbia Avenue.

 

[Tbone84]

Plenty of usage on a Saturday summer night

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Now, it just needs some restaurants, cafes, shops, boutiques

 

[IanO]

Patios!

Anyone have the very initial 'concept' images with about 10x of things going on, built and included?

 

[Edmcowboy11]

Problem is, the exact area where the pictures illustrate have completely the wrong business to need patios. If these businesses moved and allowed a couple of restaurants to move in then I'm sure we'd see the patios there.

 

[kcantor]

Even a few seasonal planters in barrels or the like would add a lot to that spot.

the seasonal planters on river valley road are really great looking planters this year, probably because that stretch of road with a golf course on one side and the multi-use path and the river bank on the other doesn't have enough greenery [insert sarcasm emoticon of choice here].

maybe in 20 years if the new boulevard trees and landscaping on this stretch of 103 avenue live long enough to acquire some decent size and massing it will get some complementary planters too.

 

[Avenuer]

So unimaginative -- compare this City effort to the one on Columbia Avenue.

The only thing different with this stretch is the lack of bike lanes, other than that both streetscapes incorporate the same tree/bench/planter theme. 105 Avenue has the added benefit of being much longer with newer residential around it.

 

[archited]

@Avenuer, it's not the individual fixtures nor for that matter the materials that make a place exciting it is the spatial relationship to its surroundings -- Columbia solved that in spades,.. this stretch on the other hand is blindly ignorant of its surroundings and the way pedestrians (in particular) might interact -- it has similar conditions to Columbia in the need to access parking. One would hope to take stock of what is there presently and use a little imagination as to what might be there in addition or alternatively. Too much focus here on the street as a thoroughfare without thinking about how to add substance and life into the result. Other than parking access the street is a dead thoroughfare for vehicles -- that fact should have been forefront in the Planning. There is probably little need for bike lanes here.

 

[EdmTrekker]

Now, it just needs some restaurants, cafes, shops, boutiques

Farmers Market shut the street down for it.

 

[IanO]

Very little secondary spend and a few parkades to deal with = no go.

 

[IanO]

Old proposal on that 103-104/101st corner.

 

[IanO]

Nearby planning:

103A Avenue and 99 Street Streetscape and Underground Pedway

103 A Avenue and 99 Streetscape and Underground Pedway

engaged.edmonton.ca

 

[CplKlinger]

Nearby planning:

103A Avenue and 99 Street Streetscape and Underground Pedway

103 A Avenue and 99 Streetscape and Underground Pedway

engaged.edmonton.ca

Why aren't they doing the stretch of 99 St immediately north of 102 Ave? There's another roadscape project that will cover the portion from Jasper to 102, so are they really going to leave that middle stretch as the odd one out, or is there a third project that I missed?

 

[IanO]

My belief is that these projects are intended to have a perpetual amount of construction and disruption around the civic precinct/arts district.

Question - when was the last time there was no significant construction/impact in and around the square?

 

[CplKlinger]

My belief is that these projects are intended to have a perpetual amount of construction and disruption around the civic precinct/arts district.

So you don't know of any project covering that specific stretch of 99 St? I wonder why they'd leave it out of both adjacent projects.

 

[Greenspace]

That is a strange gap but I'm trying to recall if the sidewalks and road there were redone when they perminantly closed 102 Avenue.

Here is the 99 Street project for reference - https://www.edmonton.ca/projects_plans/roads/99-street-streetscaping-and-waterproofing