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Yup the Klien Years were deficit reduction. It affected the rural hospitals more. as a number were converted to health centres and long term care facilities. I looked at a number of community hospitals that had maintence staff, that was then cut to 1 maintenance person for 3-5 town hospitals.
 
I hope all of you who are worried about this are also sending emails and making calls to the government and opposition (which I did this morning myself). I also fear this is going to be lost in the shuffle now, so I've asked for answers from the UCP and for the NDP to push this issue further.
 
Edmonton had to fight for everything. Schools, health care, infrastructure, you name it. Danielle Smith doesn’t really have much understanding either. Edmonton and Northern Alberta generate the most industrial activity.
 
The UCP is firehosing right now. So much wild stuff coming out that no one can remember it all, or have time to be outraged by any of it.

Hospitals way over capacity, fracturing and possible privatization of the healthcare system, meeting with Tucker Carlson, Caught lying about why they paused renewables, firing the ethics commissioner, trying to leave the CPP, changes to the municipal government act (early but i really question the intentions behind this), the recent policy convention with plenty of eyebrow raising resolutions. Anything else I'm missing?
 
TravellingChris said:
As I've said elsewhere on this board in relation to other projects, I go based on past performance. I'm not the only one who fears that this government--which feels that it "owes" Edmonton nothing given that the capital voted entirely NDP--will find a way to delay or postpone this project indefinitely, attributing it to the state of the economy, to increases in material and labour costs, to competing needs elsewhere in the province, to the war in Gaza, to the fact that the Frasier reboot is so terrible, to the fact that even if the hospital were built we wouldn't have enough doctors and nurses to staff it, etc. etc.

I'll believe it's moving forward when I see contracts signed, a definitive timeline issued and actual, significant activity on the project site.
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They UCP can’t keep getting away with it though. They narrowly won the election and if the NDP flips more seats in Calgary and the Donut, they run the risk of narrowly losing. They’ve got to at least try to win some of the South Edmonton ridings..
 
EtoV said:
The UCP is firehosing right now. So much wild stuff coming out that no one can remember it all, or have time to be outraged by any of it.

Hospitals way over capacity, fracturing and possible privatization of the healthcare system, meeting with Tucker Carlson, Caught lying about why they paused renewables, firing the ethics commissioner, trying to leave the CPP, changes to the municipal government act (early but i really question the intentions behind this), the recent policy convention with plenty of eyebrow raising resolutions. Anything else I'm missing?
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Yes, I feel they are using crazy stuff partly as a distraction, although some of their supporters actually believe it and are motivated by it too.

While we can't ignore it, we need to just not react to everything or focus on it alone. Really, most people don't care that much about the ethics commissioner. However, they do care about CPP and hospitals being over capacity.
 
Had drinks with a friend that was involved with this project. It's more or less dead. As far as he knows no work has been done. The only health care we will see is Stollery. So even if design was to start again it could be 5 years before we have use of a new hospital.
 
I'm indirectly involved with this project and while not "dead" there have been a large number of question marks raised about the state of this project lately.......I am getting the sense that focus is shifting to the stollery.
 
Munanyo said:
I'm indirectly involved with this project and while not "dead" there have been a large number of question marks raised about the state of this project lately.......I am getting the sense that focus is shifting to the stollery.
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Yup. They're building a new ward to care for children who had a book read to them at a library.
 
While not to get political (I am going to anyway), THESE issues are where our mayor and council need to spend time being vocal on and advocating for. Being public about the needs for Edmontonians and the region. This region needs a new hospital so badly that publicly advocating for this is a must.

If only Sohi actually stayed in his lane and advocated for a new hospital as opposed to writing letters and tweets about issues that are happening on the other side of the world.

We need city council to work with the surrounding region UCP MLAs because this issue is a regional issue, there are not nearly enough beds in the Edmonton region. Sohi needs to stop writing letters to the PM about issues in the middle east and focus on what Edmontonians elected him for.
 
Frankly this is going to be a bit of a hot take, but I don’t think reaching out to Edmonton area MLA’s from the UCP is going to do anything. If anything, publicly advocating for something like that to a vocal degree might backfire heavily, considering Sohi (not this council necessarily since some of them have made vocal comments during the campaign) has a better relationship with Smith than with Kenney at this moment. (By virtue of Smith being more of a right wing populist than a principled fiscal conservative)

The only one MLA I could see doing something towards our direction is Searle Turton, and he’s one voice in a rural and Calgary dominated Cabinet. The rest? Absolutely inconsequential. 2 are new MLA’s (one is affiliated with Take Back Alberta), 2 Cabinet Ministers who are pretty much low key and quiet with less prestigious ministries and one re-elected MLA that’s out of cabinet.

The only person and way you can get anything done is to lobby the Premier directly or the Premier’s Office. Cabinet Ministers and backbencher MLA’s have relatively little or no power anymore in politics in this country anymore. Theoretically a cabinet minister can have autonomy and advocate for more decisions, but recently both federally and provincially, that’s not a thing anymore. All roads lead to the PMO (or PO) in our case. I’d argue Sean Fraser and his handling of housing is one of the few exceptions, but even then that’s iffy since most directions directly come from the PMO nowadays.

And with limited political capital being used for the restructuring of AHS? Yeah, it’s going to go nowhere.

People were warned, and to Edmonton’s credit, people listened.
 
Whattagame said:
Yup. They're building a new ward to care for children who had a book read to them at a library.
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This is a very unfortunate take on the Stollery - while I agree a new hospital is needed in South Edmonton, equally needed is a new Stollery. I believe the Stollery is the largest children's hospital in the country (or continent) without a dedicated facility currently working out of the U of A.
 
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