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Again, no developer want to pay taxes, would prefer surface parking if they can. This is a huge step back if it goes through. Not appropriate for this site. We already are way over parked in the area, all the surface parking does is take away from private parkades where people should be actually parking. Also 3 year permit can be renewed unlimited amount of times.
 

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Again, no developer want to pay taxes, would prefer surface parking if they can. This is a huge step back if it goes through. Not appropriate for this site. We already are way over parked in the area, all the surface parking does is take away from private parkades where people should be actually parking. Also 3 year permit can be renewed unlimited amount of times.
Exactly. For what is touted as a "premier" street in Edmonton and one we should be proud of, is effectively dead and void of life between Fox 1/Bundok, and The Mercer building. There is nothing but vacant space and parking lots in that stretch and adding in another parking lot in a sea of parking space is such an ironically poor use of space (whether it is short term temporary or long term temporary is tbd) when all the talk and efforts of council is reducing parking and encouraging alternative transportation to attract people and vibrancy to the core.

One block south, the city shut down 102 ave to make it a walking street, now one block north of that we are adding EVEN MORE parking? What is it that we want?
 

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a few months old but seemingly missed by Edmonton media- this is a good news story for us
I don't know with how clogged Vancouver is, the labour problems and extreme lack of warehouse why more shipping isn't done through here instead.

We talk so much about infrastructure in Canada, but really need to expand it in places where it makes sense. I suppose this is good news, but more should be done here.
 

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Westrich did not buy an expensive piece of land on 104st to invest money into a parking space to offer free parking. Their intention is to allow for parking for up to 3 years, at which point they are going to evaluate the market in hopes of building a tower. How would you suppose that they partially recoup an investment in the land and make it into a parking lot by offering free parking?
Ummm, my post was sarcasm, too. Like the post above it. Sorry, i thought it was obvious. I should have used an emoji of some kind.

At least @Edmcowboy11 got the joke.
 
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Exactly. For what is touted as a "premier" street in Edmonton and one we should be proud of, is effectively dead and void of life between Fox 1/Bundok, and The Mercer building. There is nothing but vacant space and parking lots in that stretch and adding in another parking lot in a sea of parking space is such an ironically poor use of space (whether it is short term temporary or long term temporary is tbd) when all the talk and efforts of council is reducing parking and encouraging alternative transportation to attract people and vibrancy to the core.

One block south, the city shut down 102 ave to make it a walking street, now one block north of that we are adding EVEN MORE parking? What is it that we want?
I think where our councilors get mislead or easily confused is when people complain about the lack of parking downtown. By that those complaining, do not mean parkades or lots that often charge exorbitant rates, but on street parking. So, building more parkades or surface parking lots is not going to attract people to come downtown. A lot of people coming downtown occasionally prefer to avoid that sort of thing.
 

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The usage rate for 90% of most lots Downtown (pre-COVID) were something like 34-56% depending on where, with only a small percentage over 80% even at their peak demand.

There isn't a lack of parking, there is a lack of information, awareness, signage/wayfinding and desire to park out front of where they are going.
 

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^To be fair the character of the street may not change a lot given the front and north portion of the building is being retained. I still think it's a bad idea though.
Yeah, if they had a Development Permit application for the future tower submitted right now and under review, it would be much easier to support the partial demolition.
 

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I think the surface lot next to the office building (a few blocks away from 104 st) I am in varies between 40% to 60% full, but I don't think rates ever really changed.

I don't drive regularly, but I really avoid the outdoor parking lots in particular. Parkades are a bit nicer because they are warmer in the winter, but I don't use them a lot either - mostly just park on the street when I need to go in and out/drive for errands.
 

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Westrich did not buy an expensive piece of land on 104st to invest money into a parking space to offer free parking. Their intention is to allow for parking for up to 3 years, at which point they are going to evaluate the market in hopes of building a tower. How would you suppose that they partially recoup an investment in the land and make it into a parking lot by offering free parking?
So it was Westrich that bought it?
 

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So it was Westrich that bought it?
If this is approved, this is where the city also needs to show some backbone and stick to the 3 year term.

So, if the development for whatever reason does not proceed at that time, the parking use ends.
 

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Reno of the biulding on the corner of 109st/107 ave coming along nicely.
 

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