bodsbods9090
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Well actual enforcement at the station and not having to wait for EPS to show would make a difference I'd have to imagine.
I think it be worth it personally.
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I think it be worth it personally.
Gronk!
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occidentalcapital
Senior Member
Wow bringing back the music! I think this stopped sometime in the 90s. Cool idea and can also help safety and security.
Kosy123
Active Member
Could be cost maybe? I'm sure that some of the current Transit Peace Officers could be transferred to that. EPS pushback for reasons, and I'm not sure if the MGA actually allows the city to run a transit police force under its jurisdiction separate from EPS.
On the plus side, it's probably more effective to have an in house force. And the transit safety perception could probably increase a decent margin just based on that.
Kosy123
Active Member
I'm not gonna lie the ambient city sounds on the above ground Valley Line stations make it so much more comfortable than blatant silence.
The underground stations can be eerily silent if there's not a lot of people taking it, so if there's music? Probably a good step forward!
Plus more jazz is 10/10
The underground stations can be eerily silent if there's not a lot of people taking it, so if there's music? Probably a good step forward!
Plus more jazz is 10/10
thommyjo
Senior Member
I believe Calgary and Vancouver both have dedicated transit police? Is Calgary does, I think we should be able to.
Kosy123
Active Member
Ooh damn I didn't know Calgary had that. In that case, we should emulate that then. The less powers and responsibilities EPS has on our transit network, replaced by transit police, the better.
YEG Bus Rider
New Member
Calgary does not have "transit police" like Vancouver. They have a MOU with Calgary Police Service as required under Peace Officer Act (different than police act) & some additional powers in provincial appointments compared to our Transit Peace Officers.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Hmm. Interesting. Not how MP Randy talked about it. So is Calgary’s a better system than ours?
EdwardEdm
Active Member
It sounds like Calgary's might be slightly better, with having some additional access Edmonton peace officers don't have.
A comparison: https://pub-edmonton.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=146048
Page 14 of this document goes into detail on some of the similarities and differences: https://pub-edmonton.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=41671
Kosy123
Active Member
Oh the Urbanity posted a video about transit ridership in the 12 largest metro systems on the continent. Putting it into perspective, Edmonton being at 75% of pre-pandemic ridership is pretty on par with other transit systems in Canada (bar Calgary).
thommyjo
Senior Member
We definitely aren’t in a bad spot like some cities. But I still think comparing us to cities that had 5-10x the downtown office workforce is apples to oranges. Students still need transit, hospital workers too, low income people too. That’s our ridership base. But elsewhere those groups make up a smaller percentage historically. Almost all the dip is reflective of office work patterns.
dkazzed
Active Member
I took the C-Train during the PM rush yesterday. Holy it was packed.
Kosy123
Active Member
Interesting lil presentation to Council on transit/downtown safety. Perception of safety needs heavy work, but it seems like we're in the right direction at least. At least we get numbers on total ridership by month though!
Habibfazil
Active Member
Very interesting numbers, but incidents % of total rides is a useless metric, if I see 1 on my ride it's 100%
Wonder if they could provide incidents by location and time frames, as I suspect it's worse at certain times and locations
Overall, in the past month I've seen a very heavy presence of tpos, police, youth out reach etc. BUT they are always busy, doesn't seem to be any less activity...
Then again, that is what I've seen...
Wonder if they could provide incidents by location and time frames, as I suspect it's worse at certain times and locations
Overall, in the past month I've seen a very heavy presence of tpos, police, youth out reach etc. BUT they are always busy, doesn't seem to be any less activity...
Then again, that is what I've seen...