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Jasper Avenue New Vision / Imagine Jasper Avenue

scyeg said:
Truth. I wish they would just prioritize this over almost any other road rehabilitation project in the city, power through it, and get it done.
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Of course that would mean a whole host of city employees working on the project for two plus decades the way the city chooses to handle it would then have had nothing to do after the first four years it should have been completed in. As it stands, by the time the last phase has been completed. It will be time to redo the first one (which still hasn’t actually been completed).
 
northlands said:

"The Imagine Jasper Avenue project is inching closer to being fully realized as the City of Edmonton seeks out a contractor to deliver the second phase of the project, which covers 114th Street to 124th Street."
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"Neal LaMontagne is a faculty lecturer at the School of Urban and Regional Planning at the University of Alberta.

He said the project is a good step forward but adds he wishes it was more ambitious.

"It's very standardized, and it lacks colour. It lacks a little bit of oomph that we might need if we're going to realize Jasper's older potential as our ... premier main street," he said in an interview.

"It's sort of a backbone project. It's the type of things that you need, the physical infrastructure you need, but it's not going to create much of a catalyst effect."

LaMontagne said Edmonton needs to make its public spaces, particularly downtown, more accessible and fun.
 
northlands said:

"The Imagine Jasper Avenue project is inching closer to being fully realized as the City of Edmonton seeks out a contractor to deliver the second phase of the project, which covers 114th Street to 124th Street."
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"Phase 2 of Imagine Jasper is expected to start next spring with the city hoping to finalize contractor procurement in early January."

Spring 2025? Or 2026? That sentence is oddly worded if procurement begins in January.
 
Dubas said:
"Phase 2 of Imagine Jasper is expected to start next spring with the city hoping to finalize contractor procurement in early January."

Spring 2025? Or 2026? That sentence is oddly worded if procurement begins in January.
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Pretty sure it's just poor wording (or the CBC entirely misunderstood the City)
 
Sooo… “Edmonton needs to make its public spaces, particularly downtown, more accessible and fun”.

From beginning to end the Imagine Jasper project will have taken about as long to build as the TMX pipeline expansion from here to Burnaby.

All those endless summers of construction disruption in order to bring accessibility and fun to downtown while inflicting death by a thousand cuts in the interim.

Note to file: This is a comment on project management and implementation, not on the end product if and when we ever get an end product.
 
kcantor said:
Sooo… “Edmonton needs to make its public spaces, particularly downtown, more accessible and fun”.

From beginning to end the Imagine Jasper project will have taken about as long to build as the TMX pipeline expansion from here to Burnaby.

All those endless summers of construction disruption in order to bring accessibility and fun to downtown while inflicting death by a thousand cuts in the interim.

Note to file: This is a comment on project management and implementation, not on the end product if and when we ever get an end product.
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I believe administration's recommendation for the 2018-21 budget was that council fund the full Imagine Jasper Ave project and complete it in one budget cycle.

But that council elected to fund 1/3rd of it and keep tax rates low and kick the can down the road. And now this current council is taking on the final 2/3rds of the project which adds to the tax levy. This current council could have also just funded 1/3rd again and kicked the can further down the road for the final 1/3rd and much of the public that doesn't give two cents about Jasper Ave would perhaps be paying lower taxes.
 
The most important part of Jasper Ave to get done imo. Can't wait. I'm pretty happy with how 109-114 st turned out, especially the amount of greenery. PCL was able to get that done in 2 seasons.
 
As mentioned, it's currently unfunded. And it's not in the CRL projections which go until 2034. So not sure where the money is coming for that unless future council makes it a priority.
 
Greenspace said:
The most important part of Jasper Ave to get done imo. Can't wait. I'm pretty happy with how 109-114 st turned out, especially the amount of greenery. PCL was able to get that done in 2 seasons.
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Based on that timeline, the remaining portion may be a 4 year project, or maybe it could be done in 3.
 
TAS said:
I believe administration's recommendation for the 2018-21 budget was that council fund the full Imagine Jasper Ave project and complete it in one budget cycle.

But that council elected to fund 1/3rd of it and keep tax rates low and kick the can down the road. And now this current council is taking on the final 2/3rds of the project which adds to the tax levy. This current council could have also just funded 1/3rd again and kicked the can further down the road for the final 1/3rd and much of the public that doesn't give two cents about Jasper Ave would perhaps be paying lower taxes.
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We may have arrived at the worst of all worlds - the can gets kicked further down and tax increases are still unbearably high. Gee, I wonder why the current council is not more popular?

The only good thing may be a bit of a reprieve from years of construction and disruption from downtown. I don't think our city officials appreciate how terribly disruptive all this has been for businesses and others in the area.
 
David A said:
We may have arrived at the worst of all worlds - the can gets kicked further down and tax increases are still unbearably high. Gee, I wonder why the current council is not more popular?

The only good thing may be a bit of a reprieve from years of construction and disruption from downtown. I don't think our city officials appreciate how terribly disruptive all this has been for businesses and others in the area.
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I don't understand what you are saying. Do you think this council's decision of funding the remaining amount of this project is good? Do you think the whole thing should be delayed as a reprieve of construction?
 
Greenspace said:
As mentioned, it's currently unfunded. And it's not in the CRL projections which go until 2034. So not sure where the money is coming for that unless future council makes it a priority.
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Ok, fine (well, not really, but ok..). But in the meantime, can we find time and resources to remove this ugly, decaying flower bed? Seriously, this could possibly be there until 2034?!? like 50+ years after it was installed?
Give me a jackhammer and I'll do it for free over a weekend. Heck, maybe we can get the Downtown community league in on this. Sell "demo permits" to anyone who wants to help. $10 gets you 10 mins with the jackhammer. We can time it for a farmer's market weekend. We'll let people can keep chunks of it as a souvenir to put on their fireplace mantle :)

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