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Homelessness, Addiction and Mental Health

Greenspace said:
Fair comments, people need a place to go which is why the province opened the welcome centre. Would like to see how many people can go there expanded, not just from encampments being dismantled. Also I've noted before shelter space has been tripled in Edmonton from 600 in 2023 to almost 1700 spots in 2024.
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Oh nice, so finally, we’re roughly on par with Calgary.
 
Whattagame said:
Quite the Straw Man. The problem people have with clearing the encampments is the lack of a short-term plan to fulfill the basic need of shelter. As it stands, proponents of the demolition see that the tents are gone and think that we solved homelessness.

The author kind of outed himself with his reference to "outrage culture". But if that didn't do it, the lack the what-happens-next while telling others that they're incapable of critical thinking shows exactly how disingenuous the author is being.
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Who is claiming encampment clearing “solved homelessness”???

What if there are just better and worse places to have encampments? What if cleaning up encampments is a crime prevention and proactive health care approach? What if it’s part of signalling that ad hoc shelters are not the desired solution, but instead that shelters need to be utilized?

Pretty tough look to claim anyone that supports encampment cleanups is dumb enough to think that’s solving homelessness. There’s more nuance to the perspectives than that.
 
thommyjo said:
Who is claiming encampment clearing “solved homelessness”???

What if there are just better and worse places to have encampments? What if cleaning up encampments is a crime prevention and proactive health care approach? What if it’s part of signalling that ad hoc shelters are not the desired solution, but instead that shelters need to be utilized?

Pretty tough look to claim anyone that supports encampment cleanups is dumb enough to think that’s solving homelessness. There’s more nuance to the perspectives than that.
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No outward claims, but certainly a general sense of out of sight, out of mind.

You're right that there's more nuance. For example, if there are shelter spaces available, it would be worth looking into why they are unfilled if people are still in encampments - and to do this before taking someone's shelter away in winter.
 
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Gronk! said:
globalnews.ca

4 levels of government meet on Edmonton homelessness crisis for ‘1st time’ - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca

Edmonton's mayor met with Alberta Minister Jason Nixon, federal Minister Sean Fraser and Grand Chief Cody Thomas of the Confederacy of Treaty 6.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1765153523699011798
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Aside from the bigger picture this gathering hopefully helps solution, from a political perspective this is a big win for Sohi - bringing this group together (having feds and prov in the same room is a tough proposition these days). Hopefully we see some concrete (or wood frame) options coming soon.
 
Scary numbers. Quite the switch in 2021.

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jason403 said:
Incarcerate the criminals, institutionalize the mentally ill, then it would be possible to house the remainder. If the former isn't done, you likely can't do the latter.
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It sounds so easy, except that common sense just ain’t that common anymore
 
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