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We actually do fairly well considering. We are not a big financial centre with a concentrated work force downtown yet similar to larger cities such as Seattle and ahead of at least half a dozen mostly larger cities. However, Toronto, Montreal and Calgary do very well.

I don't know if the with the new REM line in Montreal opening if that will boost them further, I think it is more commuter oriented, but they could give TO a run for their money.
Additionally, when you consider riders per kilometer or per capita, we easily surpass Seattle, San Diego, and Atlanta.
 
Also, I believe that when (one day, eventually) the valley line opens, we'll see a substantial increase in that and pass Seattle and Atlanta. I also believe that a few simple things would help a lot increasing ridership numbers grow (safety and implementing a no-fare zone between downtown stations and the U of A station, for example)
Yeah, if that Valley line ever does open that should help our numbers a lot and probably put us ahead of several other cities shown on the chart.
 
I wonder if 51 Avenue could be extended east to 17 Street, and another route introduced from Meadows going west on 17 Street, west on 51 Avenue, north on 34 Street, west on Roper Road all the way to 75 Street, and north to Davies Station.
Why? You're basically proposing to extend the 505 through a very lightly developed area. There are other much better places to spend money on Transit. A better use of money would be to expand On Demand to the industrial areas north of the Whitemud and south of 76 Ave, or at least a portion of it. The money would go further and cover a larger area than it could with a fixed route. Given this area hasn't really had transit service, On Demand would be better suited for such low ridership, after all, you're not likely going to be able to convert existing employees in these industrial areas to switch to taking the bus. It's going to be new people employed in these areas that have no other means but Transit. The On Demand bus that services the "G" On Demand zone is very low ridership as it is. There's was an On Demand ridership map linked in the 2021/22 ETS Service Plan which showed Millgate, the transit centre for Zone G and since replaced by Davies, had only had 63 drop offs, and 0 pick ups, which probably means this was literally one person using the bus, and they were probably dropped off by someone to get to work, and then occasionally took On Demand/ Transit home. This was also only 7 months of data and represented the earliest times of On Demand service, I have yet to see the On Demand bus at Davies while passing through which leads me to believe this particular industrial area still isn't generating much ridership.
 
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These are fascinating statistics--Vancouver well ahead of L.A., Toronto miles ahead of Chicago, and Calgary ahead of both San Francisco (I like BART a lot, it's a pretty great network) and L.A.

It's interesting that Salt Lake and Portland are so far back--both have extensive systems and Portland's is frequently lauded as some sort of model for other cities.

I find it difficult to believe that anyone is riding Ottawa's system. When do they actually have the chance? :)
 
I took the PDX and then a connecting tram and it was pretty quiet back in June.
 
Absolutely, but it felt very different and much more chill for the most part.

Weed vs. Meth?
 
I had a little fun compiling data from the most recent transit route report card that covers all of the city's bus routes. I pulled out two key measures: the average weekday passengers for each route and the number of riders per service hour. The busiest route was route 8, serving 12,453 passengers a day, while the most efficient was route 110 which served 84.3 passengers per service hour.

RouteAvg. Weekday PaxEfficiency (riders/hour)
12,02629.4
25,14637
33,00357.3
410,70243.8
57,79844.3
61,76236.4
75,34646.8
812,45361.4
97,81449.3
511,84233.6
523,42044.4
532,67333.6
542,46934.3
552,71938.7
564,66745.8
7310,64864.4
10186727.4
1021,79239.7
1031,79623.2
10482622.9
1062,40935.2
1072,03729.5
1082,34639.2
1091,17223.9
1105,63484.3
11120822.6
11267723.7
1131,41732.7
1142,23659
1161,07334.7
11754115.7
1181,21925.1
1191,35028.8
1201,50627.9
1211,35631.7
12232320.8
1231,29339.7
1241,95030.3
12658445.3
12719920.3
12814330.3
13046321.9
1319823.9
14021617.3
15038020.8
5001,13544.7
5011,84340.9
50224532.3
50318922
50464339
50520450.9
5061,58841.1
5071,91926
50888220.6
5093,01440.4
51288535.1
51348927.9
51443937.6
5152,25451.8
5163,88459.1
51770837.7
5182,77040.5
5192,13130.2
5211,71928.2
52238813.5
5232,72836
52424136.4
52513427.9
52622833
56088518.3
58014614
70078121.7
7012,89439.3
70281022.7
7031,40332.5
70498567
70565329.8
70666021.4
7071,20447
7081,31042.3
7092,10449.3
71233927.1
71338326
7151,08128.4
71687924.6
7171,28423.9
7181,05922.9
7191,46930.1
7211,92133.7
7221,71423.6
72334043
72433917.8
72510520.9
72625039.1
7471,17853.5
9004,29738.7
9012,66542.1
9021,74138.3
9032,05155.6
9041,35528.7
90563934.3
90642830.3
9071,69538.6
90830731.7
90966825.7
91041128.6
91271229.3
9131,08645
9141,44036.5
9151,18936.1
9162,57041.2
9171,55226.8
9182,14249
9191,29054.9
92072843.3
92179322.2
92281440.7
92335848.3
92431336.4
92527332.9
93029128.2
94013612.3
 
I had a little fun compiling data from the most recent transit route report card that covers all of the city's bus routes. I pulled out two key measures: the average weekday passengers for each route and the number of riders per service hour. The busiest route was route 8, serving 12,453 passengers a day, while the most efficient was route 110 which served 84.3 passengers per service hour.

RouteAvg. Weekday PaxEfficiency (riders/hour)
12,02629.4
25,14637
33,00357.3
410,70243.8
57,79844.3
61,76236.4
75,34646.8
812,45361.4
97,81449.3
511,84233.6
523,42044.4
532,67333.6
542,46934.3
552,71938.7
564,66745.8
7310,64864.4
10186727.4
1021,79239.7
1031,79623.2
10482622.9
1062,40935.2
1072,03729.5
1082,34639.2
1091,17223.9
1105,63484.3
11120822.6
11267723.7
1131,41732.7
1142,23659
1161,07334.7
11754115.7
1181,21925.1
1191,35028.8
1201,50627.9
1211,35631.7
12232320.8
1231,29339.7
1241,95030.3
12658445.3
12719920.3
12814330.3
13046321.9
1319823.9
14021617.3
15038020.8
5001,13544.7
5011,84340.9
50224532.3
50318922
50464339
50520450.9
5061,58841.1
5071,91926
50888220.6
5093,01440.4
51288535.1
51348927.9
51443937.6
5152,25451.8
5163,88459.1
51770837.7
5182,77040.5
5192,13130.2
5211,71928.2
52238813.5
5232,72836
52424136.4
52513427.9
52622833
56088518.3
58014614
70078121.7
7012,89439.3
70281022.7
7031,40332.5
70498567
70565329.8
70666021.4
7071,20447
7081,31042.3
7092,10449.3
71233927.1
71338326
7151,08128.4
71687924.6
7171,28423.9
7181,05922.9
7191,46930.1
7211,92133.7
7221,71423.6
72334043
72433917.8
72510520.9
72625039.1
7471,17853.5
9004,29738.7
9012,66542.1
9021,74138.3
9032,05155.6
9041,35528.7
90563934.3
90642830.3
9071,69538.6
90830731.7
90966825.7
91041128.6
91271229.3
9131,08645
9141,44036.5
9151,18936.1
9162,57041.2
9171,55226.8
9182,14249
9191,29054.9
92072843.3
92179322.2
92281440.7
92335848.3
92431336.4
92527332.9
93029128.2
94013612.3

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I had a little fun compiling data from the most recent transit route report card that covers all of the city's bus routes. I pulled out two key measures: the average weekday passengers for each route and the number of riders per service hour. The busiest route was route 8, serving 12,453 passengers a day, while the most efficient was route 110 which served 84.3 passengers per service hour.

RouteAvg. Weekday PaxEfficiency (riders/hour)
12,02629.4
25,14637
33,00357.3
410,70243.8
57,79844.3
61,76236.4
75,34646.8
812,45361.4
97,81449.3
511,84233.6
523,42044.4
532,67333.6
542,46934.3
552,71938.7
564,66745.8
7310,64864.4
10186727.4
1021,79239.7
1031,79623.2
10482622.9
1062,40935.2
1072,03729.5
1082,34639.2
1091,17223.9
1105,63484.3
11120822.6
11267723.7
1131,41732.7
1142,23659
1161,07334.7
11754115.7
1181,21925.1
1191,35028.8
1201,50627.9
1211,35631.7
12232320.8
1231,29339.7
1241,95030.3
12658445.3
12719920.3
12814330.3
13046321.9
1319823.9
14021617.3
15038020.8
5001,13544.7
5011,84340.9
50224532.3
50318922
50464339
50520450.9
5061,58841.1
5071,91926
50888220.6
5093,01440.4
51288535.1
51348927.9
51443937.6
5152,25451.8
5163,88459.1
51770837.7
5182,77040.5
5192,13130.2
5211,71928.2
52238813.5
5232,72836
52424136.4
52513427.9
52622833
56088518.3
58014614
70078121.7
7012,89439.3
70281022.7
7031,40332.5
70498567
70565329.8
70666021.4
7071,20447
7081,31042.3
7092,10449.3
71233927.1
71338326
7151,08128.4
71687924.6
7171,28423.9
7181,05922.9
7191,46930.1
7211,92133.7
7221,71423.6
72334043
72433917.8
72510520.9
72625039.1
7471,17853.5
9004,29738.7
9012,66542.1
9021,74138.3
9032,05155.6
9041,35528.7
90563934.3
90642830.3
9071,69538.6
90830731.7
90966825.7
91041128.6
91271229.3
9131,08645
9141,44036.5
9151,18936.1
9162,57041.2
9171,55226.8
9182,14249
9191,29054.9
92072843.3
92179322.2
92281440.7
92335848.3
92431336.4
92527332.9
93029128.2
94013612.3
Honestly super curious to see how much of 73 transfers over to the Valley Line when it opens.
 

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