EllisDon to Lead Prairie Link High-Speed Rail Partners - Edm-RD-Cal

[BASE]

I don't mind that location, be nice to have a direct indoor connection to the Government Centre LRT station. It does seem like a fairly narrow site though.

 

[Gronk!]

Here are my plans for a future High Level Bridge:

1. Retain the High Level Bridge as a MUP on the main level and the streetcar and rail on the top level.
2. Build a new 2-way 4 lane 1-level bridge east of the High Level Bridge for vehicular traffic that will include 18-wheelers and public transit. May wanna include MUPs on this new bridge if necessary.
3. North of the High Level Bridge, transform the west side of 109 St into a pedestrian plaza.
4. North of the High Level Bridge, the east side of 109 St should be changed from a 1-way road into a 2-way road, using a small strip of land from the Legislature grounds.
5. North of the bridges, replace that dog's breakfast of roads into a roundabout that services 109 St and 97 Ave.
6. South of the bridges, install another roundabout that services 109 St NB/SB, Saskatchewan Drive (1 way or 2 way), Walterdale Hill Road (1 way or 2 way) and 88 Ave.
7. Widen the MUPs south of the bridges.

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Feel free to incorporate HSR into my High Level Bridge plans.

 

[Didama]

One of the things I find particularly interesting is that they are proposing a stop at 34 Ave. That could be a real gamechanger for that area.

 

[IanO]

That's a waste of a stop if you want anything resembling a higher speed train. No density either.

 

[Platinum107]

That's a waste of a stop if you want anything resembling a higher speed train. No density either.

I agree that it prob won't end up being the location of that stop (these aren't even concept plans, keep in mind). They'll either move it south to 23rd Ave (most likely, with all the services and density in the vicinity and the more southern location) or north near the Whitemud (less likely).

 

[IanO]

You would need a major transit station for crossover and I just cannot see that for 25-50 yrs.

 

[whatchyyc]

That's a waste of a stop if you want anything resembling a higher speed train. No density either.

There'll be passing tracks so not all trains will stop there anyways
I think the idea is that the station itself will be the catalyst for density and connections:

 

[IanO]

I love when people use the Tokaido Line (the busiest in the world) next the one of the largest metro regions in the world for comparison.

I don't dispute that things can't densify and change along the proposed route in Alberta, but let's try to be a little more realistic shall we?

 

[Didama]

That's a waste of a stop if you want anything resembling a higher speed train. No density either.

I completely disagree. Not every train has to stop at every stop, lol. And the density will come, that's the point. That's why the WLRT is taking the route it's taking as well. Smart planning

 

[Edmcowboy11]

Using that bit of logic, I would then want to see a location like Century Park as a Southside hub for HSR, LRT, BRT, and regular ETS and regional transit.

 

[IanO]

Using that bit of logic, I would then want to see a location like Century Park as a Southside hub for HSR, LRT, BRT, and regular ETS and regional transit.

I'd wager this makes far more sense next to the TUC and their new park and ride.

 

[ChazYEG]

That's a waste of a stop if you want anything resembling a higher speed train. No density either.

Passing tracks are a thing. Their financial model works because over half of the passenger traffic happens between the airports and their own cities. That is even more true for Edmonton-YEG

 

[The_Cat]

I think the Ellerslie Station might work better for the high-speed rail route. The tracks could detour at Anthony Henday to meet up with the Ellerslie Station.

 

[Platinum107]

I'd wager this makes far more sense next to the TUC and their new park and ride.

What is TUC?

 

[chrisvazquez7]

What is TUC?

Transportation & Utility Corridor, aka Anthony Henday Drive