The Clifton | 55m | 15s

[MattPT]

That blank wall is cladded in a wonderful stone tile from Spain. It won't be a blank stucco wall.

Pretty sure the people in properties on high street whos condos USED to be a million won’t give a shit where the stone is from lol. But, given that this building was always a possibility, I guess it’s better than looking into new neighbours?… but still kind of an asshole move to build such a monolith.

 

[cmd uw]

Pretty sure the people in properties on high street whos condos USED to be a million won’t give a shit where the stone is from lol. But, given that this building was always a possibility, I guess it’s better than looking into new neighbours?… but still kind of an asshole move to build such a monolith.

Well, they also should have known that Clifton Place was likely going to be redeveloped in the future and they would have been looking into a building regardless. THEY made that choice to purchase a condo. No one owns 'views'. And if they are blocked, well, then buy a condo in the new building

 

[Romanov]

Did this one have to go through EDC? I imagine this wall would have been critiqued heavily, due to it facing the street/public realm.

I think I can appreciate the developer's intent and come to appreciate the building for what it is. However, does anyone have any real world examples of something similar?

 

[Munanyo]

Really nice project. Glad this lot is getting developed and while this is clearly geared toward the very wealthy, having any quality projects downtown, big or small, makes a difference and will have an impact.

I do wonder though why Edmonton has so few luxury or newer projects built towards the valley. For example, when driving from the Walterdale bridge up 105a you see empty lots or really old apartments from 30 years ago. I know building there would present some unique geotechnical challenges but you'd think some developers would give those lots a chance.

 

[IanO]

It's a real shame how many character houses Edmonton have lost or let go on that hillside. You look at Downtown Vancouver and look at how many they have continued to maintain and what these areas might feel like or offer in terms of housing variety if they were still there.

Alas.

 

[TAS]

When it comes to derelict homes I definitely advocate the city to issue fines and even take down the house with the cost sent to the owner, but as an old character house starts to fall into decline, or even before that, what exactly is the city's role and legal options?

 

[thommyjo]

Are character homes lost due to the cost of housing here vs in markets like Vancouver? Do the economics just not work to rebuild an old 400k house here vs a 2.6mil house in east van is worth a 300k reno? Or are there other reasons?

 

[cmd uw]

Are character homes lost due to the cost of housing here vs in markets like Vancouver? Do the economics just not work to rebuild an old 400k house here vs a 2.6mil house in east van is worth a 300k reno? Or are there other reasons?

I think there are way more shitty houses in Vancouver given the price of land. What's the incentive to maintain a house when you can gain massive amounts of equity through land value appreciation alone.

 

[IanO]

There are also many more character houses that are either well kept private residences or historic homes that are protected in the Downtown proper.

 

[supaflyryguy]

Density > character homes in the core. It's nice if we can incorporate historical stuff when possible, but up is the right play, especially in this space.

As for the blank wall, I'm less offended by them when they look this good (if the end result is as shown).

 

[cmd uw]

There are also many more character houses that are either well kept private residences or historic homes that are protected in the Downtown proper.

Please send some examples. And Mole HIll doesn't count.

 

[IanO]

Mole Hill absolutely counts, but here is one from there and a bunch from areas west of Burrard.

 

[EtoV]

Also these recent retentions that are part of developments, which is a great way to facilitate historical preservation when there's significant development pressure. Much better than the Toronto Facadism, and we've shown that we can do it here (Symphony):

There's also plenty of TH projects outside of downtown that incorporate a historic home into the project:

 

[TAS]

Also these recent retentions that are part of developments, which is a great way to facilitate historical preservation when there's significant development pressure. Much better than the Toronto Facadism, and we've shown that we can do it here (Symphony):
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There's also plenty of TH projects outside of downtown that incorporate a historic home into the project:

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The retention of this brick house in conjunction with The Hendrix is another good local example.

 

[Dubas]

^ There is an amazing little coffee shop, Stopgap Coffee, in that little house. Do yourself a favour and check it out!