Agard
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Wow really?? I'm surprised given how much of a disaster it was after it opened
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Edmonton City Centre Mall (Renovations) | ?m | 2s | LaSalle Investment Management
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IanO
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I noticed that City forces were planting all of the large planters around ECC this morning; it begs the question(s), why would these not be for ECC to do and why were they left looking awful during the playoff run and not planted until the end of June? Odd.
IanO
Superstar
They do look great now I must say.
ADob
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Photo please?
crisp
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I was actually in Bangkok this past April and hit up Emsphere twice. It was quite the experience and it blows any mall in Canada out of the water. The food court was a key standout for me. There are so many amazing options, and none feel like just a typical franchise; you even have Michelin-recommended spots.You mean this Chinese billionaire?
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With that being said, bringing this back to Edmonton CC discussion, I'm very skeptical anything like that would work here. We're talking about an 11 million inhabited massive tourist 24 hour city, vs Edmonton. And the food court, that's a cultural thing and pushing that here may be tough. I would totally be for it but would the masses? Would the capitalist-make-profit-quick mentality here bring something unique, or would we just get more a&w and NY fries and famous woks??
I would start off such a concept slowly, 1 store only, not 25 at once. And first in Vancouver/Toronto to test out the market and build up a hype.
itom987
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Edmonton has a reputation for being the test market in Canada for foreign businesses looking to set up shop in Canada.
IanO
Superstar
The newly improved beds on 102/103 look good, but I guess the ones along 103st didn't make the cut?!??!
kcantor
Senior Member
Not that i I have anything against beds but does anyone really think they will change how desolate and abandoned that stretch is?
Unless you’re actually looking for them, they don’t even have any visual impact in the photo posted to show how “improved” they are.
crisp
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Complete teardown of the Hudson bunker would be the best solution.
IanO
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It's not about material change, it's about showing that you care. That's still an entire block of ECC's property, facing our 'boardwalk' restaurant area and simply turning one's back to it says a lot more than the little effort it would take.
David A
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Yes, the tear down everything mentality may be the official ideology of Edmonton. And replace it with what? Another surface parking lot? Another long abandoned empty lot like the old BMO/Tegler site just down the street?
IMO, this could be improved a lot with a new facade to the building. I hope the previous redevelopment plans for this space proceed soon.
archited
Senior Member
It doesn't even need a complete facade makeover -- it just needs an opening up of (especially) the ground floor -- something akin to what is happening up the avenue on the southwest corner of 101street and 102 Avenue. This tearing down of completely serviceable buildings in Edmonton has got to stop.
kcantor
Senior Member
The other thing that stop is the misconception that buildings create vibrancy.
They do no such thing. Buildings create internal and external spaces/volumes that create zero vibrancy if they are vacant and inaccessible.
It's not about the building's or the sidewalks or the planters or the parks etc., it's about how they're used and programmed so that people want to spend time there.
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crisp
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I never said anything about surface lot, sheesh.
If I owned the property, and I wanted to make a major investment to activate the area, would I invest in a major renovation to turn it into a retail hub where retail has not done so well in decades? Or do I tear it down completely, build two rental towers on a strip where residential has been the main product coming online in the past decade?
