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Edmonton City Centre Mall (Renovations) | ?m | 2s | LaSalle Investment Management

I disagree that the issues facing City Centre Mall should be framed as mutually exclusive. Yes, there are systemic issues in downtown Edmonton that destroy the sense of order and safety required for the shopping centre to thrive. Yes, there is major issues with the facility itself that destroy its interface with the surrounding neighbourhood and create an undesirable atmosphere.

Government needs to fix this. And the private owners need to fix this. This is not an either-or issue.
 
Tropical said:
I disagree that the issues facing City Centre Mall should be framed as mutually exclusive. Yes, there are systemic issues in downtown Edmonton that destroy the sense of order and safety required for the shopping centre to thrive. Yes, there is major issues with the facility itself that destroy its interface with the surrounding neighbourhood and create an undesirable atmosphere.

Government needs to fix this. And the private owners need to fix this. This is not an either-or issue.
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In addition to all the systemic social issues, Edmonton is a very suburban focused city, with not that many corporate head offices downtown and seemingly little desire ever to attract more.

So boosting our downtown has been a challenge for decades and one I would say we are not doing that well at now.
 
went for a walk from Brewery district to Churchill Square passing through CCM along the way. By the time I made it to the mall I was tired and thought to get myself a drink and a sit down. Not one seat or bench to be had anywhere... a seating desert. What are they thinking? I'll not go back.
 
buildings said:
went for a walk from Brewery district to Churchill Square passing through CCM along the way. By the time I made it to the mall I was tired and thought to get myself a drink and a sit down. Not one seat or bench to be had anywhere... a seating desert. What are they thinking? I'll not go back.
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I think we all know the reason they removed all the benches.
 
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Interestingly enough, I have been in malls, some of them very high end, elsewhere in North America, in Europe, and in Asia where there is no seating other than in restaurant or food court spaces so “the reason” might not be what you think it is.
 
kcantor said:
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Interestingly enough, I have been in malls, some of them very high end, elsewhere in North America, in Europe, and in Asia where there is no seating other than in restaurant or food court spaces so “the reason” might not be what you think it is.
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I've experienced the same thing. Some of the fancy SM malls in the Philippines have absolutely no seating other than at the restaurants and the food court.
 
buildings said:
went for a walk from Brewery district to Churchill Square passing through CCM along the way. By the time I made it to the mall I was tired and thought to get myself a drink and a sit down. Not one seat or bench to be had anywhere... a seating desert. What are they thinking? I'll not go back.
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I seem to recall many years ago, maybe a decade or more in the past there was some limited seating and it was taken out. I suspect it was a conscious decision to deal with problems or concerns with people coming into the mall and loitering. There is seating in the food court area, but you have to go up a couple of levels to get to it and excess loitering is probably discouraged and monitored.
 
I was surprised they were here this long, the trend seems to be most of the old long term stores are gone and the new openings are not the old type of mall store chains.
 
Booster Juice is still not open yet on the pedway. I'm assuming red tape bureaucracy is holding things up.
 
Oh that's good to know, it's less a failure of the core's retail attractiveness and just everyone following the Bay in bankruptcy :(
 
People have returned, but the effects of financial devastation to retail in general and even more so to downtown linger and continue.

Fortunately, new businesses have been replacing some those that have closed, but the process seems to be slow.
 
REVOLVER in Westmount Mall is now closed with signage saying they are relocating to "City Centre" (presumably ECC!) with an April 21st opening date. I am going to be sad to lose them in the neighborhood but that's a really nice pickup for ECC. I wonder which space they'll be occupying?
 
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