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Edmonton City Centre Mall (Renovations) | ?m | 2s | LaSalle Investment Management

Gronk! said:
I still think an A&W should open in the Stantec Tower or in the Connect Centre to commemorate the A&W that was located next to the Greyhound bus terminal for a long long time.
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Yes and with a bit of luck a space very near that original location might become available in the next few years, due to recent corporate mergers.:)

I think it could make sense for them to have two locations if activity downtown continues to improve/recover - one for the office day time crowd and another for the event evening and weekend crowd.
 
Edmcowboy11 said:
As much as I agree to see more local smaller players, it's not like they've been squeezed out of the market. Thinking of food courts there is as we know an entirely empty food court in the Stantec tower.
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Yet our cafe scene underwent rapid diversification once Starbucks and Second Cup thinned their locations after over a decade of very little movement that wasn't Second Cup or Starbucks. Also, food court locations in office towers have significant disadvantages over anything street facing to many operations, namely that it pretty much limits an operator to lunch or coffee break service, Monday to Friday, which is probably why we've had since that tower opened (minimally) a taco restaurant, multiple burger and fries places, countless cafes, a noodle place, a fried chicken place, and various other establishments open in street-facing spaces but not opt for the food court. Franchises coming in would certainly still compete for the lunch crowd with our diverse landscape of fast casual independent, local or limited chain restaurants that have established themselves at street level, though.
 
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I was just reading a thread on Reddit about how West Ed has their own in-house security team that shuffles or bans loiterers or "undesirables" out of the mall. They can do so on any grounds they really desire since it's their private property, including profiling individuals.

It just made me think - I sort of vaguely recall an event sometime last decade where a man in City Center Mall was racially profiled in the old food court and asked to leave, despite not having done anything. Ever since, I feel like there was a swift reaction for security to basically never do anything remotely media worthy, which I think has made mall security ineffective for fear of retribution (for better or worse).

Do you think CCM would be better off adopting a WEM style policy? I mean, allegedly WEM even has their own holding cells for problematic individuals (thefts, vandalism, etc.) where they are held until EPS deals with them. Of course, WEM pulls in far more money and is a major tourist attraction but it just seems like any mall, particularly CCM, should do better to protect its own investments and stores by properly training and paying an actual security team, and taking a little risk in liability.
 
Calfaer said:
It just made me think - I sort of vaguely recall an event sometime last decade where a man in City Center Mall was racially profiled in the old food court and asked to leave, despite not having done anything. Ever since, I feel like there was a swift reaction for security to basically never do anything remotely media worthy, which I think has made mall security ineffective for fear of retribution (for better or worse).
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I used to work in the mall, and remember the incident you speak of very well.

Your theory of the situation is interesting, but I wonder if it's just a perception rather than a truth. I still saw security deal with problematic individuals after that incident, including removing them from the mall.
 
I agree and don't feel they are that reluctant to deal with problems. But in addition to mall security, there are also actual police regularly in the mall walking around. I think it is the only place downtown I go that I actually ever see them.

I believe whatever problems there may have been there have diminished considerably, although given its closer proximity to certain areas downtown the environment is not the same as West Ed.
 
Funny that after I posted, I took a walk around the pedway system and mall, I saw more security guards than I'd seen in quite a while, including a couple that were actively escorting some folks off the property. Maybe they saw my post and upped their game. Or that I simply took better notice this time.
 
Yeah the mall has a decent chunk of security roaming the halls. Foot traffic seems to be decently busy too with office workers and students.

I also saw a furniture store opening up soon in the west side of the building as well? Does anybody have more details on that?
 
Walked through Calgary's CORE yesterday around lunch and was reminded about the importance of getting ECC back in business, revamped, repurposed etc. with actual shopping with multiple options for clothing, shoes, necessities and a few significant anchors.

There were thousands of people out and about in and around the mall on Stephen Ave and while there certainly were elements similar to Edmonton, it felt same, welcoming, vibrant and pretty clean I must say.

Over to you ECC.
 
Kosy123 said:
Yeah the mall has a decent chunk of security roaming the halls. Foot traffic seems to be decently busy too with office workers and students.

I also saw a furniture store opening up soon in the west side of the building as well? Does anybody have more details on that?
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A furniture store? I need more details, please. Who is it. which location, and will this be permanent or a seasonal pop-up shop?
 
IanO said:
Walked through Calgary's CORE yesterday around lunch and was reminded about the importance of getting ECC back in business, revamped, repurposed etc. with actual shopping with multiple options for clothing, shoes, necessities and a few significant anchors.

There were thousands of people out and about in and around the mall on Stephen Ave and while there certainly were elements similar to Edmonton, it felt same, welcoming, vibrant and pretty clean I must say.

Over to you ECC.
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There are several nice new businesses retail that have come to ECC over the last 6 months or so, and a furniture store I also noticed is coming soon. So I feel things are recovering.

Unfortunately, unlike Calgary we no longer have many of the larger anchor stores such the Bay or Holts, downtown. So the challenge is to fill the remaining bigger spaces in ECC with something new that will also draw more retail shoppers.

We don't have such a large collection of interesting older buildings suited for retail, like Calgary does on Stephen Ave, but 104 St is doing well and has more potential.
 
Gronk! said:
A furniture store? I need more details, please. Who is it. which location, and will this be permanent or a seasonal pop-up shop?
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I should've taken a picture but it's on the 2nd floor near the Manulife pedway.

It did also say gifts as well. Seems to be permanent too.
 
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