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Work set to start on former Edmonton hospital and eyesore
A 20-year wait may be ending for Inglewood residents who live with the derelict former Charles Camsell Hospital in their neighbourhood.

Developer Gene Dub says construction will start this summer on the long-awaited redevelopment of the site that neighbours call an eyesore, now that the $6-million job of removing asbestos from the building appears be complete.

This time is different than previous false starts, says Dub, who, along with a handful of investors, bought the property for $3.6 million in 2004. They were unaware of the extent of the asbestos contamination that would cost six times more than expected and take years longer to remove. The process has been so lengthy that of the original eight investors, four remain.

Dub is expecting a report from an environmental engineer showing the remediation of the 1960s-era hospital is complete. That will enable the company to apply for construction financing.

“When we get that final report, it will be a great day,” Dub said Friday.

Dub and his partners want to develop a 594-unit, $200-million housing complex at the site, including the first phase of 211 condominium apartments and townhouses.

The development will eventually include single-family homes, two towers the same height as the Camsell and several four-storey buildings.

Full Story (Edmonton Journal)

Working on getting most recent renders and other details.
PERMIT_DATE April 19, 2017
PERMIT_NUMBER 149999562-010
JOB_CATEGORY Commercial Final
JOB_DESCRIPTION To change the use of an existing medical treatment building to an apartment building (191 Dwellings) and to construct an addition (20 Dwellings for a total of 211) and to construct interior and exterior alterations - Camsel Apartments.
BUILDING_TYPE Apartment Condos (315)
WORK_TYPE (08) Add Suites to Multi-Dwelling
FLOOR_AREA 548,238
Rezoning goes to council July 10:



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Wow that is cool, any of you ever venture into that Hospital for Photos? I never got the chance to, but know a few who did.
Paula Simons: Can Gene Dub's new plan break the curse of the Camsell Hospital?
Gene Dub has applied to Edmonton city council to tweak the zoning at the former Charles Camsell hospital.

It’s hard to know whether this is good news or bad news.

For 21 years, Inglewood residents have been staring at a behemoth eyesore in the centre of their neighbourhood.

The hospital was vacant for eight years before Dub, the architect and former city councillor, bought the 4.7-hectare site from the province for $3.6 million back in 2004.

Dub and his investors planned to redevelop the area — east of St. Albert Trail and west of 127 Street, between 115 Avenue and 113 Avenue — into a mix of townhouses, condos and seniors facilities, with 594 units of housing.

It never happened, despite city approval.

Revised plans
On July 10, council will consider Dub’s revised plans for the site.

He wants to rezone the far end of the site, the 0.65 hectares that lie south of 114 Avenue. In his original plan, that land was reserved for lower-density housing, no more than two storeys high.


A pedestrian makes their way past the former Charles Camsell Hospital, 12815 115 Ave., in Edmonton Wednesday June 28, 2017. DAVID BLOOM / POSTMEDIA

Dub now wants to increase the density on that site to hold 128 units. And he wants to raise the maximum height to four storeys.

Dub didn’t return my phone calls Wednesday. But city planner Laurie Moulton said Dub told the city he hopes to sell off the south parcel, or work with a partner, to build a condo or seniors’ housing.

You can see the logic. Work on the hospital has been slow and cripplingly expensive, thanks to asbestos removal.
Architect says long-delayed Camsell Hospital condos to open in 2018

A pedestrian makes their way past the former Charles Camsell Hospital, 12815 115 Ave., in Edmonton Wednesday June 28, 2017. DAVID BLOOM / POSTMEDIA
Construction on Edmonton’s long-shuttered Camsell Hospital is finally going full steam with the first new condo units ready for move-in at the end of 2018, says the developer architect.

Crews still need to redo the roof and finish the interior into new residential condo units, but the asbestos is out and Gene Dub says 90 per cent the new windows are now in. His team will also start digging for the underground parkade this spring.

Dub designed, owns and is managing the conversion of the old hospital into residential condos.

He said the positive side of the delay is that they’re now added an Indigenous garden into the plan to honour the Metis, First Nation and Inuit communities who have a long history at the former hospital and the previous hospital on this site before that.

It was one of Canada’s largest Indian Hospitals, part of a segregated health care system where many First Nations people were sent during decades of tuberculosis outbreaks.

The Charles Camsell site has been a neighbourhood eyesore since it was closed 21 years ago. Dub has owned it since 2004, and Inglewood neighbours have often expressed frustration over the slow pace of reconstruction.

Dub said “the delay now is pretty much under control. There’s still some financing that’s required but there’s enough financing to continue until such time as the new financing arrives.” He spoke after the 25th anniversary celebration for City Hall, a building he designed but did not do the project management for.

Dub said his team will be designing the new Indigenous garden over the winter and plan to have Indigenous members of the community involved.
Owner sees previous Charles Camsell site done by end of next year
What started in 2008 as the redevelopment of the old Charles Camsell Hospital now has a finish line in sight, according to the architect and investor who will have put more than a decade of time into converting the property into condos.

Add in the other decade that Inglewood residents have had to put up with as the former hospital sat vacant following it’s closure in 1996, there’s a sense of relief for Gene Dub.

Construction has started, he said, and by the end of next year Phase 1 should be complete for 200 units plus another 89 on the south property. Three hundred more units are planned for Phase 2.

“All of the windows are almost in,” Dub said. Next will be the roof and then the interior. And when the time is right, a new element will be added. Dub has initial plans to build an Indigenous garden.

“It’s one where we plan to celebrate some of the Indigenal history of the area in the park on the park in the corner. So it’s something that wouldn’t have happened had we developed it earlier. So that’s the only plus about it having been delayed.

“We’d like to have involvement of First Nations, Metis and Inuit. Recognition of all of the groups that were in the hospital.”
For sure this time.

Paula Simons: At last, condos take shape at Edmonton's old Charles Camsell hospital
Brian Seitinger has been in construction his whole life. His father was in construction. His grandfather was in construction.

There must have been days over the last 14 years that he’s felt he’s been working on the Charles Camsell Hospital renovation for most of his life too.

Seitinger is the owner of T.C. Biggs Construction and the project manager of the Camsell project. He’s worked with developer Gene Dub on many projects over the years, including the reconstruction, brick-by-brick, of the Alberta Hotel. But the decommissioned hospital, which Dub purchased from the province in 2004, has been their nemesis project.

It’s been beset by construction challenges, including the need to remove huge amounts of asbestos and two interior fires caused by construction workers. It’s been just as plagued by legal and financial tangles, as Dub and his past partners had a fallout over their deal. And it’s been plagued by years of destructive vandalism.

But things are finally, finally looking brighter for the Camsell redevelopment.

Inside the eight-storey hospital tower they’ve started to frame in the individual condominiums. There will be 161 units in all, ranging in size from 800 square feet to 1,200 square feet. Most will be one-bedroom suites, with a few two- and three-bedroom units in the mix.