Downtown

[_urbanite]

About 4 blocks west/south of the 7-11 that closed is the newer one at 112 st and Jasper Ave, but that is technically Oliver.

That one is closing too

 

[thommyjo]

That one is closing too

the 7-11s always cause problems though. Ultima is getting wrecked by it. Idk how the residents are ok with it. The noticeable dirtiness and crime there is very much tied to the store opening

 

[itom987]

I don't think corner stores are the problem, it's the loitering around them that is.

 

[thommyjo]

I don't think corner stores are the problem, it's the loitering around them that is.

Does 7-11 or credo attract loiterers more?

That’s like saying a nightclub isnt the issue to noise and drinking complaints on the street it exists. An earls wouldn’t cause the same problems as The Ranch.

 

[soupcrate]

Does 7-11 or credo attract loiterers more?

That’s like saying a nightclub isnt the issue to noise and drinking complaints on the street it exists. An earls wouldn’t cause the same problems as The Ranch.

Maybe, but having a convenience store at the base of your building is a fantastic amenity. We shouldn't accept social disorder as being inevitable and meaning we can't have nice things.

 

[IanO]

I don't think corner stores are the problem, it's the loitering around them that is.

This and that is a very sad situation.

 

[roe_]

Just like a Tim Hortons should have to clean up cups and other trash around their premises, convenience stores should be responsible for keeping their areas safe and clean. Every time I walked by the 7-11 on Jasper and 104 it looked like it could use a good power wash.

 

[IanO]

The landlord/property manager needed to do more and it became a broken window theory issue.

 

[archited]

Same here in SoCal -- 7-11's lunch (such as it is) is getting eaten by Circle K and AM/PM. The newest 7-11 in Ventura broke type altogether and was actually a small groceteria about 5 times bigger than their typical store. Makes me think that they are going for a different business model altogether (Oh, thank heaven).

 

[IanO]

Creating ecosystems crucial to boost recovery of Canadian downtowns

Many urban cores dependent on too few industries, say insiders

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[itom987]

The 7-11s in Taipei, Taiwan are very successful, they have a wide range of instant meals and booze to choose from. They also don't have any loitering problems.

 

[itom987]

Here is are some typical 7-11s in Taipei:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@25.0734...4!1sV2R2o6idILLpnAoHOgwPUw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
https://www.google.ca/maps/@25.0734...4!1s9sru4C_sgjkVi7Se09-GFA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Inside:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@25.073343,121.5002529,3a,75y,122.74h,68.35t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipPydV77v2UgWt99Eq3164Ln-CTQRpd4x5tu_0uY!2e10!3e11!6shttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipPydV77v2UgWt99Eq3164Ln-CTQRpd4x5tu_0uY=w203-h100-k-no-pi-2.1629426-ya114.14521-ro10.509446-fo100!7i5376!8i2688

Here is another one:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@25.0386...=290.2039&pitch=0&thumbfov=100!7i16384!8i8192

 

[itom987]

There are too few 7-11s in downtown Edmonton which is causing the loitering problems because there is nothing else around that gets regular traffic.

 

[archited]

^^^^ "Please sir, could you spare change for some food?"
Response -- "Sorry, I don't carry change anymore; I only have debit cards"
Counter response -- "Then F.U. you wannabe mogul"
Response -- "Thank-you and have a nice day -- hope you don't get the DTs before someone is duped by your charm -- I could have charged a sandwich for you -- clearly that is not what you want the change for"
Counter response -- "mumble, mumble, assh***, mumble, mumble"

 

[IanO]

The 7-11s in Taipei, Taiwan are very successful, they have a wide range of instant meals and booze to choose from. They also don't have any loitering problems.

Same in Japan and our go to for bank machines, delicious fresh baking/sandwiches and soups on the run.