thommyjo
Senior Member
How are the raised crossings? Did they do them right this time? Or are they massive bumps still?
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Cycling and Active Transportation in Edmonton
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mBertan
New Member
No complaints (25mm tires)
ntt1
Active Member
Well, the 111 St MUP south of 23 Ave has been a bit of a gong show this past week.
TAS
Senior Member
Gronk!
Senior Member
LRT construction?
ntt1
Active Member
The crossing is blocked off at Saddleback Rd, forcing you to cross 111, then Saddleback again to the east side of 111. That side is much dicier, as the path condition is worse, and there are at least 3 or 4 parking lot entry points for NoFrills and the YMCA. I've only approached it going northbound after the Blackmud bridge; I'm not sure what it is going south, as there don't seem to be any closure signs going that way. I've been detouring through Skyrattler instead, which is a bit better. There is a path connecting to the 111/23 intersection from the neighborhood, but there's probably a foot of gravel and mud on it from all the construction equipment that crosses it daily.
The painted bike lane on Saddleback is also down to one lane with pylons everywhere. It continually backs up with everyone using Saddleback (and turning right to go on 111 south) to avoid the 23 Ave and 111 St intersection at rush hour.
Of course, the 111 St and 23 Ave intersection is a daily horror show of bad and entitled driving every time I'm waiting there on my bike to cross.
mBertan
New Member
thommyjo
Senior Member
Oh, what. I thought these were supposed to be raised crossings…
Dubas
Active Member
I believe they are for accessibility instead
thommyjo
Senior Member
Do raised crossings impact accessibility?
I’ve always though of them as potentially impacting drainage, but being massively helpful for a number of reasons:
1) reduce bumps and discomforts for biking, strollers, wheelchairs.
2) add a table top to slow cars to ensure they come to a stop before entering the intersection and reduces speed.
3) helps with snow and ice melt in winter/spring as many of these crossings become full of water and make walking and biking a mess
Maybe there’s something I don’t understand. But to me, every major bike route should be “continuous” and where roads intersect, cars should have to go up and over as they yield. Every major arterial MUP for example would benefit a ton from this.
Dubas
Active Member
Here's the purpose of those sidewalk bumps
You’ve probably noticed the raised, bumpy patterns where the sidewalk ends. You might also have wondered why they are there.
www.wptv.com
thommyjo
Senior Member
Sorry haha. I’m very aware of what those are. I was commenting on the fact that these crossings aren’t raised crossings, which I had heard from Knack and others would be used after “learning from the mistakes of the initial 102ave design”.Here's the purpose of those sidewalk bumps
You’ve probably noticed the raised, bumpy patterns where the sidewalk ends. You might also have wondered why they are there.
Apparently lessons weren’t learned and we’ll keep prioritizing drivers on one of the busiest bike routes in our city…
BrettB
Active Member
Something I learned from a man in a wheelchair, raised crosswalks also eliminate that small dip at the junction of the gutter and the lowered sidewalk that can sometimes prove insurmountable
thommyjo
Senior Member
Exactly. They seem like win win wins!