MacLac
Senior Member
Just drove by, they are motoring on the 23rd Ave underpass! It’s already well below grade on the south side……
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Capital Line LRT
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J_gordo
Active Member
Gronk!
Senior Member
On the agenda: LRT cell service, derelict properties, St. Anthony School
This week, council returns from the holiday break to discuss installing cell service in underground transit areas, taxing derelict properties at a higher rate, and the redevelopment of St. Anthony School.
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- City council’s urban planning committee will be asked to approve the environmental impact study for the bridge over Blackmud Creek that is being constructed as part of the Capital Line LRT south extension. The study said the new bridge could erode soil, contaminate the creek, lead to the loss of native vegetation, and disturb wildlife. It also identifies ways to mitigate these impacts. If urban planning committee approves the bridge, the report will go to a future city council meeting for a final vote. Construction of the extension is expected to start in the spring and take four to five years to complete.
J_gordo
Active Member
You’re telling me they waited until construction is starting to do this study? They couldn’t have done it, oh I don’t know, before the city had to borrow money to fund this project? There’s a bridge already there, I’m sure an enlargement of it won’t kill the entire ravine. What happens if they find it does all of these things? Are they just going to mitigate them or is it going to require a new design?On the agenda: LRT cell service, derelict properties, St. Anthony School
This week, council returns from the holiday break to discuss installing cell service in underground transit areas, taxing derelict properties at a higher rate, and the redevelopment of St. Anthony School.
- City council’s urban planning committee will be asked to approve the environmental impact study for the bridge over Blackmud Creek that is being constructed as part of the Capital Line LRT south extension. The study said the new bridge could erode soil, contaminate the creek, lead to the loss of native vegetation, and disturb wildlife. It also identifies ways to mitigate these impacts. If urban planning committee approves the bridge, the report will go to a future city council meeting for a final vote. Construction of the extension is expected to start in the spring and take four to five years to complete.
husky
Active Member
I wouldn't get too worked about this, this is pretty standard stuff for these types of projects. It goes to council because of Bylaw 7188, like all other EIAs and SLSs do.
If you actually read the report, an EIA was already completed for the project in 2019, and it was updated in 2024 to account for the latest design information now that it is headed into delivery. The EIA describes how the potential impacts to each environmental component will be mitigated, and the contractor has to submit a plan to address how they will be mitigated. These types of documents are completed to identify any potential issues early so that the project is aware they have to be mitigated.
If you actually read the report, an EIA was already completed for the project in 2019, and it was updated in 2024 to account for the latest design information now that it is headed into delivery. The EIA describes how the potential impacts to each environmental component will be mitigated, and the contractor has to submit a plan to address how they will be mitigated. These types of documents are completed to identify any potential issues early so that the project is aware they have to be mitigated.
The_Cat
Senior Member
ntt1
Active Member
January 27, 2024, looking south at 23 Av/111 St
Barnaby
Active Member
Regarding the procurement for Capital Line cars.
Expect the retaliatory tarriffs on the USA to shift the purchase to Kinki Sharyo or Alstom instead of what would have likely been Siemens.
Expect the retaliatory tarriffs on the USA to shift the purchase to Kinki Sharyo or Alstom instead of what would have likely been Siemens.
MacLac
Senior Member
Siemens is not German?
YEG imagineer
Active Member
Siemens is German but their North American plant is in Sacramento.
Foolworm
Active Member
Turns out APC has a list of all interested suppliers.
fromyeg
Active Member
Could we be getting some Turkish or Polish units coming our way? 
Does Hyundai Rotem hold an advantage as they are supplying the rolling stock for the Valley Line West?
I’d be surprised if CRRC is selected.
I feel the risk of tariffs will prevent any rolling stock made in the USA being selected.
I know Siemens and CAF both manufacture in the states, so that could make them less likely. 
My guess is we end up with Hyundai Rotem given Canada’s positive trading relationship with South Korea (
) and the CoE’s preexisting relationship with them, but we will see. 
Does Hyundai Rotem hold an advantage as they are supplying the rolling stock for the Valley Line West?
I’d be surprised if CRRC is selected.
I feel the risk of tariffs will prevent any rolling stock made in the USA being selected.
I know Siemens and CAF both manufacture in the states, so that could make them less likely. My guess is we end up with Hyundai Rotem given Canada’s positive trading relationship with South Korea (
) and the CoE’s preexisting relationship with them, but we will see.
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EdwardEdm
Active Member
The prequalified vendors are:Could we be getting some Turkish or Polish units coming our way?
Does Hyundai Rotem hold an advantage as they are supplying the rolling stock for the Valley Line West?
I’d be surprised if CRRC is selected.
I feel the risk of tariffs will prevent any rolling stock made in the USA being selected.
My guess is we end up with Hyundai Rotem given Canada’s positive trading relationship with South Korea (
Siemens
CAF
Hyundai Rotem
The other 3 vendors successfully submitted responses, but their submissions apparently did not meet the required standards.
The City was only looking to prequalify a maximum of 4 vendors anyways.
I personally don't believe in any vendor having any advantage over another vendor because of preexisting work with the vendor.
Tariffs are a risk, but that will be something Siemens and CAF have to take into consideration in their responses. Besides, if tariffs were a big enough concern, given that it seems any Rotem cars would be produced in South Korea, there's nothing to say CAF or Siemens couldn't use locations outside of the USA for production if the cost benefit is there if tariffs are a concern.
I don't believe the final RFP has been issued yet for the prequalified vendors.
MacLac
Senior Member
Whose CAF again?
EdwardEdm
Active Member
Construcciones y Auxiliar de Ferrocarriles. They are from Spain.
They have built high floor LRV's for Pittsburgh and Sacramento, as well as quite a few low floors cars for various North America projects, and won the contract for Calgary's Green Line cars.
They actually previously had won a Calgary high floor purchase until l, I believe, it was retendered and Siemens won on the second try.
CAF are doing the purple line cars for Maryland which are marginally longer than TransEd's Alstom cars.