The_Cat
Senior Member
111 and 118 Avenue used to be the main routes out of Edmonton, before the Yellowhead Trail.
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Yellowhead Trail Upgrades
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trevorhayden
Active Member
Though, not anymore. Both need major road diets.
dkazzed
Active Member
Did the interchange at Mayfield Road/170 St and Stony Plain Road really exist?
Offworld
Active Member
What makes you doubt so?
The_Cat
Senior Member
I remember it. There wasn’t a lot of development west of 170 Street. It was taken down in the mid-1980’s.
husky
Active Member
MuzikMachine
New Member
I'm curious which part of the former Yellowhead section of 118 Ave you're referring to as being unnecessary wide? Hwy 16 followed 118 Ave east of NAIT, most of which is a four lane cross section with no median or additional turning lanes, except for maybe the area immediately around Northlands Coliseum.
MuzikMachine
New Member
Do you know if there are any ground-level archived photos?
trevorhayden
Active Member
Both 118 and 111 Avenue are still 6 to 7 lanes wide in areas of the City designated for pedestrian focused development.
bodsbods9090
Senior Member
BASE
Active Member
The Capital line is also currently receiving a 1.4 Billion dollar 4.5 km extension so I don't know if one is being prioritized over the other. Unless you mean existing capital line should be receiving funds for intersection grade separation similar to Yellowhead?
AJo
New Member
There are sections that are wider yes but I think 111th has a greater number of them. Basically the entire corridor west of 75 street has wider sections until it joins into Mayfield road.
There are only 2 wider sections of 118th. The Old Coliseum corridor from 82nd to 70th street (which could be narrowed but would make the intersection with 75th an even bigger gong show.) and the section east of 36th.
Unless we can reduce the amount of cars on the roads by 20% or so we are stuck with many of the collectors being that wide just to maintain traffic flow.
trevorhayden
Active Member
The easiest way to reduce cars is reduce space for cars (lanes of traffic).
AJo
New Member
I agree with that 100%, and statistics support it the whole way through. I would love to see a road diet on both, and better yet streetcars on both.
However there is the unfortunate practical consideration of "Political Interference" stemming from a small number of loud offended drivers yelling at the politicians that "You can't change the route/way I drive!, That's restriction of freedom of movement!"
And it is that problem that leads me to conclude that it is very unlikely that 111th or 118th will ever see a road diet. And I'm pretty sure the odds of me winning the lottery are higher than the odds of a streetcars on both.
dkazzed
Active Member
Interesting. They way the roads are laid out indicates things were getting built out while the interchange still existed, likely until they were hindering traffic flow more than they helped it.
Actually found this in the 1983 wards and polling map: