New Zoning Bylaw

[thommyjo]

I don't know the current state of zoning in San Francisco, but if no mass rezoning has happened there then how do we know it would reduce prices? Isn't that just using a hypothetical prediction to support an argument.

A good example would be places where there were mass rezonings and prices were then reduced, which is what I thought was what was being said, but perhaps not.

Minneapolis and Auckland were the ones I brought up that have seen affordability improve after mass rezonings. Lots you can find online about it.

San fran is an example of the opposite. Not allowing “gentrification” or densification that kicks lower income people out of “affordable homes”.

But now all you have is super crappy homes for rent for 6k a month or 3mil to buy. The rich still outbid the poor, and less housing means those without the resources are more quickly pushed out.

 

[Gronk!]

‘We should be listened to’: Proposed multi-unit infill project faces pushback in south Edmonton - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca

An Edmonton area where it is uncommon to see any structures aside from single-detached homes is seeing a number of residents raise concerns about a proposed multi-unit infill.

globalnews.ca

 

[EtoV]

Why is this even an article? Embarrassing.

Really speaks to how much influence people with extra time/money can have on our media landscape.

 

[Barnaby]

Within walking distance of 5 schools, right along the Capital Line, arguably near where a future station could reasonably be.

The newsers putting this crap on TV are luckily putting themselves out of business.

 

[Kosy123]

"Character of our neighbourhood"

lmao I'd have more respect for that argument if it wasn't the fact it just looks like another 1970's Millwoods suburb. What character are we trying to save? You're not West Point Grey lol

 

[David A]

"Character of our neighbourhood"

lmao I'd have more respect for that argument if it wasn't the fact it just looks like another 1970's Millwoods suburb. What character are we trying to save? You're not West Point Grey lol

Oh the horror, multi family housing! This neighbourhood is not some upscale enclave with character houses, these people are delusional or hysterical. Maybe both.

 

[CplKlinger]

‘We should be listened to’: Proposed multi-unit infill project faces pushback in south Edmonton - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca

An Edmonton area where it is uncommon to see any structures aside from single-detached homes is seeing a number of residents raise concerns about a proposed multi-unit infill.

globalnews.ca

“'We’re not against builders and contractors, we’re against the blanket approach of the zoning bylaw — one size fits all,' he said. 'We’re not against reform, but reform done in the right way.'

Wallace expressed a similar sentiment.

'Although I’m pro-development and pro-increasing density in these smaller sleepier neighbourhoods, I just think it’s not a one-size-fits-all,' she said."

Ok, let's get rid of the zoning bylaw altogether then. After all, defaulting to single/semi-detached uses for most residential is also a one-size fits all. Every single land use should go before council. A company wants to put a high rise tower, or a Costco, or a waste incinerator on that corner plot in the article? Hey now, we should hear them out in a meeting; context is everything.

 

[thommyjo]

“'We’re not against builders and contractors, we’re against the blanket approach of the zoning bylaw — one size fits all,' he said. 'We’re not against reform, but reform done in the right way.'

Wallace expressed a similar sentiment.

'Although I’m pro-development and pro-increasing density in these smaller sleepier neighbourhoods, I just think it’s not a one-size-fits-all,' she said."

Ok, let's get rid of the zoning bylaw altogether then. After all, defaulting to single/semi-detached uses for most residential is also a one-size fits all. Every single land use should go before council. A company wants to put a high rise tower, or a Costco, or a waste incinerator on that corner plot in the article? Hey now, we should hear them out in a meeting; context is everything.

I lose IQ points reading these articles. Bad journalism, dumb takes, it’s just rough to see people trying to claim to “character” or “not being against stuff” but totally being against the very first thing that happens…so much so that they’re quoted in news articles and making lawn signs. Very much a “I’m not against it” sort of vibe

 

[David A]

I lose IQ points reading these articles. Bad journalism, dumb takes, it’s just rough to see people trying to claim to “character” or “not being against stuff” but totally being against the very first thing that happens…so much so that they’re quoted in news articles and making lawn signs. Very much a “I’m not against it” sort of vibe

Its the same news organization that also had the headline "Two Edmonton businesses close, citing same issue with downtown traffic", although these were different businesses in very different locations with different issues and it wasn't even a road access issue in either case as the wording implied.

Sadly the quality of local news coverage is not very vigorous these days. It probably partly explains why people are not well informed.

 

[Gronk!]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/city-edmonton-housing-permits-cmhc-1.7435340

The City of Edmonton approved enough residential permits last year to construct more than half of the homes it wants to build before the end of 2026, including nearly all the permits needed to reach its missing middle housing target, according to the municipal government.

The intense push to grow the housing supply comes as the city works toward accomplishing three-year targets it set as part of a funding arrangement with the federal government.

Christel Kjenner, director of the city's housing action team, credited the boom to several initiatives, particularly the zoning bylaw that came into effect on Jan. 1, 2024.

The bylaw, which explains what can be built where, allows up to eight residential units on most lots and allows for different forms of backyard housing — previously called garage or garden suites.

 

[trevorhayden]

Unfortunately the vast vast majority are in new suburbs.... probably even more than past years by a mile. Not sure if that's a good thing.

 

[Oilguy]

Unfortunately the vast vast majority are in new suburbs.... probably even more than past years by a mile. Not sure if that's a good thing.

While likely, maybe the question to be asked though is did the zoning changes cause a shift in the marketplace? Based in my limited roaming around and pure anecdote, it sure seems like there’s more infill happening?

I’m not sure the suburbs will slow though, it’s a bit of the nature of our economy. Nisku, leduc county, ft sask are all massive employers and as such people will live in the suburbs of Edmonton and be employed there.

 

[David A]

While likely, maybe the question to be asked though is did the zoning changes cause a shift in the marketplace? Based in my limited roaming around and pure anecdote, it sure seems like there’s more infill happening?

I’m not sure the suburbs will slow though, it’s a bit of the nature of our economy. Nisku, leduc county, ft sask are all massive employers and as such people will live in the suburbs of Edmonton and be employed there.

There has to be more effort to attract businesses into our central and downtown areas if we want the nearby residential areas to grow more.