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Glenco said:
I am quite sure the city will protect the alignment for the LRT so whether not not it is built up it won’t matter
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The alignment is protected. Sure. But the roads it’ll cross will have 5x the traffic.

And all the residents moving into the area will live car dependent for years, creating patterns that take decades to undue. Vs transit being there day 1 helps more households go 1 car vs 2.
 
^well that makes too much sense. Why be proactive when you can be reactive. Isn't it better to fix a problem after a long time of the citizens complaining than to do it now. If you fix the problem too soon you won't be given credit by enough people saying that it has finally been done and long overdue.
 
There are rumblings that the Provs want to extend this line to the airport in the near term. The new? Mayor should bring this discussion to the forefront. I have long thought this extension to be in the "no brainer" category. I would think that there would be a huge bump in ridership overall if travelers coming-and-going could get to hotels and services in the City more easily.
 
thommyjo said:
Once again, so much density and no transit to serve it. We need the capital line to be doing the next 3 stations as part of the current extension.

Why do we wait until an area is populated and costlier to build in? Letting more people be impacted by the construction…

Meanwhile we have an unopened station at blatchford and 0 density there…

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I mean, look where we live, and you have all the answers you need since the province has to pony up money for LRT projects. If we lived somewhere that wasn't constantly decrying bike lanes and transit, perhaps we would have a better system. The political turmoil isn't a new phenomenon. The fact that the government is exploring rail between Calgary and Edmonton and to Banff is nuts to me. Even more so is the inclusion of connecting the airport to our LRT system in the Transportation and Economic Corridors Minister's new mandate letter:
  • In partnership with the City of Edmonton, commence planning for a YEG Airport connector to Edmonton’s light rail transit system as part of the Passenger Rail Strategy.
kcantor said:
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The fact it wasn’t extended to the airport a long time is a big failure by transit, administration and councils. The most expensive components for LRT are crossings and stations. Laying track in dedicated rights of way is cheap.
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And the GOA. I know you love to take a dig at the municipality, though.
 
thommyjo said:
Once again, so much density and no transit to serve it. We need the capital line to be doing the next 3 stations as part of the current extension.

Why do we wait until an area is populated and costlier to build in? Letting more people be impacted by the construction…

Meanwhile we have an unopened station at blatchford and 0 density there…

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Complaining that we don't built transit first while also complaining that we DID build transit first in Blatchford in the same post? 🤣
 
thommyjo said:
Once again, so much density and no transit to serve it. We need the capital line to be doing the next 3 stations as part of the current extension.

Why do we wait until an area is populated and costlier to build in? Letting more people be impacted by the construction…

Meanwhile we have an unopened station at blatchford and 0 density there…

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I mean... Blatchford is kinda what we want here no? 😭 residents there will have their LRT connection right when they move in.

I agree tho, the entire South LRT extension should've been built in one phase, with the second phase being an extension to the airport with room reserved for future stations in Rabbit Hill.
 
Agard said:
Complaining that we don't built transit first while also complaining that we DID build transit first in Blatchford in the same post? 🤣
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I see the irony haha. But with limited money, I wish we were more strategic in our long term planning.

I’m sure it’s a funding thing, but the current capital line extension should be going to 41ave. Why we chopped it up when the need is so evident seems silly.

And for blatchford, I think it’s a timing thing. Transit being built 5 years before major development is awesome. But 10+ years? I don’t imagine blatchford north has significant projects before 2035, if not 2040. So it’s just such a long time in advance at the opportunity cost of other areas. (But I also get that the NW extension is seen as critical and this is part of that…)
 
thommyjo said:
I’m sure it’s a funding thing, but the current capital line extension should be going to 41ave. Why we chopped it up when the need is so evident seems silly.
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You have to remember the equity aspect too. The Northwest has wanted LRT for a while, and the South extension was prioritized (to the former’s chagrin) both to address the rapid population growth, but more importantly, because we needed the new OMF to boost capacity for the Northwest extension up to Castle Downs as well. I’m sure there’s less of an appetite for another LRT project right now, but when it does come back, people will want the next 4.5 km LRT extension to be up to Castle Downs, not to 41st Ave SW.
 
yeggator said:
You have to remember the equity aspect too. The Northwest has wanted LRT for a while, and the South extension was prioritized (to the former’s chagrin) both to address the rapid population growth, but more importantly, because we needed the new OMF to boost capacity for the Northwest extension up to Castle Downs as well. I’m sure there’s less of an appetite for another LRT project right now, but when it does come back, people will want the next 4.5 km LRT extension to be up to Castle Downs, not to 41st Ave SW.
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Totally. Just tough to see literally 3000 residents within walking distance to a proposed station and it be 10+ years away.

I think this is why we need to sort out substantial completion to get areas like century park, exhibition, downtown, blatchford, west240, etc all filled in before we add sprawl density that we can’t provide proper services to.
 
Was at a site meeting at the Edmonton Garrison this week. We were discussing all the work ongoing or coming. One thing lead to another and I mentioned there was a lot more work when it was changed for an Airforce Base to an Army base. It shocked me that they did not know it was that before. IHell the main road the various units use was a runway. Had to explain that Griesback was the army base.
 
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