TAS
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Sounds like Trudeau has put together an 18 person committee on Canada US relations - Team Canada.
Among the members - Rachel Notley!
Among the members - Rachel Notley!
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policyenthusiast
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Freeland announces she will be running for Liberal leadership
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/chrystia-freeland-liberal-leadership-2https://globalnews.ca/news/10964126/freeland-liberal-leadership-canada/
"At least 10 Liberal MPs had already endorsed Freeland’s leadership ambitions in the days before she officially announced a run. These include Health Minister Mark Holland and former Employment Minister Randy Boissonnault.
The Liberal Party will decide on its new leader on March 9." Hardly surprising, but confirmed.
TAS
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I don't know if any Liberal can turn things around. I like Carney although he is not a politician and may get eaten alive in a debate by the politically experienced PP. Also his French is reportedly weak (although apparently still fluent - but needs more practice).
I feel like Freeland might be more of a Kim Campbell repeat as she is obviously the most closely tied to Trudeau.
In terms of PP, as good as he is at politicking, he doesn't have much of a resume.
policyenthusiast
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archited
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One thing is certain in Politics -- a late-day surprise is always looming.
Airboy
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Yup this will be interesting. At this point ist Freeland or Carney. And I hope whoever gets in will have the other backing them up. Listen to the whole Carney announcement. He was good at pointing out PPs career. It was also interesting to see the media response. "the Conservatives are going after him with the heavy hitter". Now Ill have to listen to Freelands announcement on Sunday. Preliminary comments from her are also pushing her Alberta roots. However she does carry the PMJT baggage.
As for PP anytime he brings up lack of Pipelines or the Carbon tax they can go after him for not doing anything when he was in the governing party. And its interesting how the narrative have changed from calling it the "Carbon tax" to the "Consume carbon tax".
As for PP anytime he brings up lack of Pipelines or the Carbon tax they can go after him for not doing anything when he was in the governing party. And its interesting how the narrative have changed from calling it the "Carbon tax" to the "Consume carbon tax".
policyenthusiast
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They keep rebranding it to support its removal. "Jobs tax, productivity tax, consume carbon tax".
Facts related to the carbon tax can't out-pace the propaganda.
David A
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There is so much uncertainty and volatility now, so you never know for sure what will happen. But, the likely scenario at this point still is the Federal government will change in the upcoming election.
A lot of the animosity and anger seems to have been directed at the PM and many people also feel the Liberals also need to make some changes in their approach. So a new leader could help them improve from their current level of support, which seems fairly dismal.
Airboy
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The MAGA male needs to be recognized, even in Canada. and regrettably PP and the Conservatives are selling it. Mark Carney can hit him with the life long politician only so much. But we all know the Carbon Tax is gone no matter who wins. Carney Freeland PP all want it gone. And they have all had a chance to get rid of it (Carney as an advisor to JT and Harper).and not done anything.
constance_chlore
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I watched a video of an interview he gave virtually at UdeM and he's basically fine. He makes mistakes and he doesn't speak in a very idiomatic way, but he can respond to spontaneous questions about technical subjects, which is about what anyone could expect. Freeland is a bit better in my opinion, but the way she speaks in French really grates on me for reasons I can't explain.
TAS
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^ You may be Quebecois, so you're opinion is more relevant on this than mine. But my understanding is that Quebec voters, who happen to be the Liberals strongest area of support right now according to polls, care a lot about the proficiency of any leader's French language skills, and so while his skills may seem decent to me, it's a different story in terms of where it really matters.
David A
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For those of us who are primarily English speaking, proficiency in French is hard to judge and probably not that important, but I sense some of the comments relates to speaking style rather than proficiency which I feel is really the ability to understand and be understood.
I remember the joke that was famously said about Chretien being the only PM who was not proficient in either official language and it didn't seem to hurt him. He was able to communicate although sometimes with an unusual choice of words.
I remember the joke that was famously said about Chretien being the only PM who was not proficient in either official language and it didn't seem to hurt him. He was able to communicate although sometimes with an unusual choice of words.
constance_chlore
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Not Québécois, but I did live there and still have one foot there, so to speak.
Carney and Freeland could certainly improve their French skills, but they’re not going to become ‘francophone-passing’ anytime soon. If that were the required level, the choices would be limited to francophones and some Québec-born anglo-/allophones (people like Marc Miller), or at least people who have immersed themselves for years in Québec or other francophone areas.
In Québec, the Liberal base is basically places that voted ‘non’ in 1995 (minus Beauce)—so all but the east of Montréal island, Laval, Estrie, and Outaouais—places with lots of anglophones, immigrants, and more cosmopolitan francophones who are used to, and generally tolerant of, people who speak French with an accent. Champagne’s riding in Mauricie and the one on the tip of Gaspé are the exceptions. So if the goal is not to make significant gains but just to triage the losses (granted that that might be aiming too low), I don’t think language skills would be a barrier for either candidate.
Carney and Freeland could certainly improve their French skills, but they’re not going to become ‘francophone-passing’ anytime soon. If that were the required level, the choices would be limited to francophones and some Québec-born anglo-/allophones (people like Marc Miller), or at least people who have immersed themselves for years in Québec or other francophone areas.
In Québec, the Liberal base is basically places that voted ‘non’ in 1995 (minus Beauce)—so all but the east of Montréal island, Laval, Estrie, and Outaouais—places with lots of anglophones, immigrants, and more cosmopolitan francophones who are used to, and generally tolerant of, people who speak French with an accent. Champagne’s riding in Mauricie and the one on the tip of Gaspé are the exceptions. So if the goal is not to make significant gains but just to triage the losses (granted that that might be aiming too low), I don’t think language skills would be a barrier for either candidate.
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Whatup
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So Premier Smith stood up for Alberta and Canada during this tense time with the incoming USA administration. She rightfully refused to let the eastern Canadian political oligarchs tax Alberta's oil. She used diplomacy to advocate for Alberta and Canada while Trudeau and many many Canadians lost their minds with TDS, advocated for retalitory measures against the biggest economy in the world, and were quite willing to once again completely throw Alberta under the bus in the name of "national unity". Trudeau even said Alberta and Premier Smith weren't "team players" implying she was a traitor. Unbelievable. And now we see the tariffs not come to fruition - Premier Smith looks like the only adult in the room and its quite clear what many Canadians think of Alberta - a province that is a economic juggernaut that pays much more into federal coffers than any other province. We see that O&G is a very valuable commodity, not a "sunset industry" and we see that the manufacturing and finance industries in eastern Canada are not that relevant internationally. Is anyone on this forum going to admit Premier Smith did a good job? I doubt it - but we are lucky to have her for our premier. Oh by the way, what's Rachel Notley up to?
Glenco
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