Aaron_Lloyd
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Jorg Schlagheck's new video has on the Valley Line has some really nice aerial shots of the LRT in operation:
Valley Line LRT/ Valley Line West | ?m | ?s | City of Edmonton
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EdwardEdm
Active Member
TransEd apparently had some technical issues today. Got to Davies to find nothing running, message signs noting a service delay, and a few PA announcements being made. Took the 73 instead. I only ride the Valley Line occasionally, but, this is now the 3rd delay I've encountered in the last month. 1 was a car hitting a train at Whitemud Drive, the other two times have been unknown reasons.
The_Cat
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Valley Line West (107 Street): https://vlwcommprod.blob.core.windo...BgyFfru7GkcU5KZ3-fCgLQNVuj8q3HB85KI2YTh1lZvAU
BrettB
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Your experience highlights something that bugged me quite a bit recently (including on the high-floor lines). I find ETS communications are not nearly what they should be. To me, the gold standard is if there's a delay, either the driver or a person in the control centre, comes on the speakers in trains and stations and explains what's happening and how long the delay might be. ETS fell far short of that standard several times in my recent trips.
IanO
Senior Member
A few screenshots from the video above. So awesome!
ewh1
New Member
I thought this was a very fascinating profile on Japan's newest LRT project in decades and really reminded me of the Valley Line. I thought it was interesting for a few points.
- Despite Japan's penchant for discipline and order, at grade, road intersections were still problematic with at least 4 vehicle accidents since it opened
- It was conceptualized as a reaction of the suburbanization of its urban core and built connecting multiple nodes within the city, which seems similar to Edmonton's transit planning.
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The_Cat
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Q3 2023 - 11.5% complete (increase of 4.0% from Q2 2023)
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thommyjo
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Hard to tell if we are “on schedule”. What was the anticipated % completion for this date? I feel like they’ve purposefully been vague with this one for dates, which is a bit annoying. I get why, but it feels like bad accountability.
EdwardEdm
Active Member
I blame TransEd for that. It is vague, and I was going to comment that this was the metric they used on the VLSE to communicate completion, but, it was only for part of the time.
Up until Q1 2020 the VLSE quarterly reports used "Cumulative Schedule Performance" as the metric, which was a grim 66% at the time, and had been falling since the start, and in particular from Q3 2017 to Q4 2017 when it went from 95% to 80%.
In Q2 2020 they moved to "Construction Progress", which was 72.5% for Q2 2020. They've been using the Construction Progress method ever since. I suspect it was to try to make the numbers look nicer, as the schedule performance would have probably kept decreasing, given the project was nearly 3 years late. Indeed, I guess at some point the Schedule Performance metric would have been useless, at which point the Construction Progress metric is actually more informative. Certainly earlier on in a project this big the Schedule Performance is much more useful metric, however.
Foolworm
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City of Edmonton gives end-of-season construction update - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca
In 2023, the City of Edmonton worked on more than 200 projects worth around $1 billion.
globalnews.ca
“We never jeopardize budget, so we make sure we do everything we can to stay on budget and if something is going to give, it’s going to be schedule,” said Adam Laughlin, the city’s deputy city manager of integrated infrastructure services.
Inflation and supply shocks have hit Marigold as hard as anywhere else, yet they're still tracking to be on budget so it should be pretty obvious.
IanO
Senior Member
Yesterday I took the extended fam on a ride from Millwoods to 102st and back.
The good
-Mom loved how clean, 'airy' and bright it was - the windows are HUGE
-Everyone loved the simplicity but effectiveness of the stations
-It felt very 'big city'
-For a quasi holiday 3pm train it was 65-75% full which was wonderful to see
-No issues on the train or at any station
-For my 7yr old nephew, he was in heaven with the various hill climbs, elevated views/station, 'big ski hill down to the river' and the tunnel *chefs kiss*
-It was smooth, ~35min door to door and comfortable
The Bad
-Trying to buy 3 adult, 1 child and 1 senior passes at the ARC booth was idiotic in nature and not effective, intuitive or efficient. Seriously.
-How many idiot drivers were in front of the stop lines which caused us to slow and honk repeatedly about 6-7 times heading Downtown.
-Interior audio for station advisory volume was all over the place? You could barely hear it at times and then a few were very loud.
-The closing door audible noise was incredibly invasive and annoying for those of us sitting near the doors.
The ugly
-What's up with the lack of pigeon control (Churchill station) tactics and cleaning? It was disgusting and with very few places to sit outside because of excrement. Seriously awful. It made the new station look like a septic tank in many places.
-Most of the Churchill mini shelters were taken by people passed out, actively doing drugs or smoking something which forced out to remain outside.
Overall we were all impressed and I firmly believe that much of my family had their LRT and even somewhat of their Downtown perceptions move into a more positive light given all of the negative reports of late.
The good
-Mom loved how clean, 'airy' and bright it was - the windows are HUGE
-Everyone loved the simplicity but effectiveness of the stations
-It felt very 'big city'
-For a quasi holiday 3pm train it was 65-75% full which was wonderful to see
-No issues on the train or at any station
-For my 7yr old nephew, he was in heaven with the various hill climbs, elevated views/station, 'big ski hill down to the river' and the tunnel *chefs kiss*
-It was smooth, ~35min door to door and comfortable
The Bad
-Trying to buy 3 adult, 1 child and 1 senior passes at the ARC booth was idiotic in nature and not effective, intuitive or efficient. Seriously.
-How many idiot drivers were in front of the stop lines which caused us to slow and honk repeatedly about 6-7 times heading Downtown.
-Interior audio for station advisory volume was all over the place? You could barely hear it at times and then a few were very loud.
-The closing door audible noise was incredibly invasive and annoying for those of us sitting near the doors.
The ugly
-What's up with the lack of pigeon control (Churchill station) tactics and cleaning? It was disgusting and with very few places to sit outside because of excrement. Seriously awful. It made the new station look like a septic tank in many places.
-Most of the Churchill mini shelters were taken by people passed out, actively doing drugs or smoking something which forced out to remain outside.
Overall we were all impressed and I firmly believe that much of my family had their LRT and even somewhat of their Downtown perceptions move into a more positive light given all of the negative reports of late.
MacLac
Senior Member
So the Churchill station for the VLSE is that rampant with pigeons and associated pigeon crap? Already?
IanO
Senior Member
I've never seen such cascading flows from steel.
J_gordo
Active Member
First panelling on lewis farms OMF
Friendmonton
Active Member
I was there yesterday and it really is an issue — the pigeon poop is everywhere. Not to mention the broken doors, garbage and drug use in the shelters.
But I do see cleanups every week. It’s more that the problem is just much bigger than our efforts. My solution would be to remove the doors entirely (they’re just getting destroyed by vagrants), and fix the pigeon issue with deterrents asap.