The Quarters Hotel and Residences | 280.1m | 80s | Alldritt Land | KENNEDY

What do you think of this project?

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Problem with building here is the convention centre is too small - Edmonton needs a space 2-3 times as large as what we have now. We are not attracting the largest conventions and trade shows due to the limitations. Something bigger e be built in Ice District Village And add a couple of hotels to it.
 
Well I don't think there is any desire for another convention facility. City owns both the Convention centre and the Expo center. If we want the Expo center to be more appealing I think they need to connect an LRT station directly to the Expo center.
Anyways, it still would be nice to see this structure move forward, it would be a positive addition to the area.
 
Edmcowboy11 said:
Well I don't think there is any desire for another convention facility. City owns both the Convention centre and the Expo center. If we want the Expo center to be more appealing I think they need to connect an LRT station directly to the Expo center.
Anyways, it still would be nice to see this structure move forward, it would be a positive addition to the area.
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there was a proposal to link the expo centre to the coliseum so they could be operated as a multipurpose convention centre with up to a million square feet. the link would have utilized the existing pedestrian bridge over 118th avenue and been fully enclosed with two levels of space that would have provided a striking focal point for 118th avenue traffic.

lots of adjacent land for hotel and local fine grained as well as destination retail.

lots of open space south of expo hall for large exhibits (combines, tractors, mining equipment etc.) that could also provide a permanent home for k-days etc.

you could also have folded in a street track for indy or formula-e (formula 1 would be a bit of a stretch).

the city wasn’t interested…
 
kcantor said:
you could also have folded in a street track for indy or formula-e (formula 1 would be a bit of a stretch).
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Even though it's being built in Edmonton, Badlands Motorsports Resort will provide that when it's built-in Rosebud which will provide something similar to the province. It still would have been nice to see Edmonton have something similar.
 
I remember seeing this project couple of years ago. I hope it gets built even if it takes a while.
 
supaflyryguy said:
Pop quiz: when was the last time Alldritt erected anything larger than a single family home or a white fence on a high-value piece of land?
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It does not mean they can't execute a tower though. It is how astutely a leader of a construction company has been over his/her career. If you have X number of years in the field, so who have you recognized as truly innovative workers to assemble that division. This would be no different than PCL, or Clark Builders.
 
Clearshades said:
It does not mean they can't execute a tower though. It is how astutely a leader of a construction company has been over his/her career. If you have X number of years in the field, so who have you recognized as truly innovative workers to assemble that division. This would be no different than PCL, or Clark Builders.
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Can they? Probably. I'm questioning whether they ever will, and it appears they have no intention of building much of anything based on their long history of not building anything.
 
Anyone know where Mike Nickel is these days? Maybe he could help his buddies at Alldritt get their act and financing together. Maybe Mike has left Edmonton? Des he even have a social media presence?
 
supaflyryguy said:
Can they? Probably. I'm questioning whether they ever will, and it appears they have no intention of building much of anything based on their long history of not building anything.
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They would not have saved all those compiled antiquated bricks just for the fun of it. Constructing a tower is not that hard...it follows the same principles as wood construction just different material methodology.
 
'Constructing a tower is not that hard'

Not complex at all; very little coordination between multiple disciplines, easy peasy pro forma creation and financing more or less a money tree.
 
IanO said:
'Constructing a tower is not that hard'

Not complex at all; very little coordination between multiple disciplines, easy peasy pro forma creation and financing more or less a money tree.
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noting of course that that’s the contractor’s role and the consultants’ role, not the developer’s role other than providing or securing the financing (and even that availability will be market driven, not skill driven).

what you’re saying here is like saying it’s really hard to ship something from one place to another because building and operating airplanes and ships and trains is complex and requires coordination between multiple disciplines and jurisdictions. the party shipping something is purchasing that expertise, not providing it.

in that sense, construction is no different. like shipping, it is very much a logistical and not a magical exercise. at their core, both start with a whole bunch of stuff “here” and want to end up with a whole bunch of stuff “there”.

the developers role is one of team building and providing vision and direction and money, not day to day execution.
 
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