Metro 78 | 23m | 6s | Pinto Properties | Frank Hilbich

[soupcrate]

Why would anyone want to try to do anything of scale within the infill context after this boondoggle. Good for Pinto for fighting the good fight here but what a mess as well as a waste of time and resources to get something approved that should have been approved from day one. City council needs to figure out how they are going to actually achieve their city plan and intensification goals when good projects like this have so many obstacles to getting approved.

On the other hand, this could also have a demoralizing effect on local NIMBYs. They organized a full court press for the initial public hearing but the building is still going ahead with only minor adjustments and no reduction in density.

Plus, having an apartment here helps set a precedent.

 

[Marcolangzi]

Absolutely agree. Metro 78 was not the first GSA project . There are many more in the pipelines.

 

[TAS]

On the other hand, this could also have a demoralizing effect on local NIMBYs. They organized a full court press for the initial public hearing but the building is still going ahead with only minor adjustments and no reduction in density.

Plus, having an apartment here helps set a precedent.

I think over time as communities see how council is faithfully following City Plan and pretty consistently approving these projects including in Westmount, Glenora, McKernan and so on, they will realize that they are likely not going to be successful - especially with these missing middle scale projects.

 

[Oilers99]

On the other hand, this could also have a demoralizing effect on local NIMBYs. They organized a full court press for the initial public hearing but the building is still going ahead with only minor adjustments and no reduction in density.

Plus, having an apartment here helps set a precedent.

Definitely a positive spin, don't think Pinto would have preferred to be the guinea pig on this though.

 

[Oilers99]

Another thing to keep in mind, development requires debt. Debt whether it is done by traditional banks or more expensive private banks, both hate regulatory uncertainty. Financing these types of projects will continue to be very difficult (at least at the initial stages) unless the city makes changes to provide certainty to developers.

 

[thommyjo]

Can confirm that anecdotally, many “nimbys” are realizing they can’t beat the city plan. Some still try, but the tone is defeated.

Our community league gets weekly emails from people still trying to create a stir. Thankfully, the tides are turning and momentum is behind new projects. If they keep being executed well, it will build trust and also critical mass in these new areas. The 200 new residents of a project like this are unlikely to add to the nimbyism and will likely support more infill projects in this area.

 

[IanO]

Working through something here that had a 6 month delay = $20k/unit increase at a time where we are trying to improve affordability, not erode it.

 

[archited]

Getting caught in the bureaucratic network at City Hall is a mind-numbing circumstance -- one of the many reasons why the City should narrow its scope of service to the "necessary" instead of thinking it is mandated to provide design solutions.

 

[northlands]

It's just so hilarious(ly sad) that these folks choose to live in a neighborhood adjacent to the largest university within 800 km of any direction--you know, a place where tens of thousands of people from out of the city/province/country attend and/or work at that requires a lot of temporary rental space--then get upset about there being more rental space being built?

I can generally empathize with NIMBYism to a very small extent, but the irony of this seems all but lost on these folks

I posted this in the Windsor Terrace thread awhile back, basically sums up my thoughts here as well

 

[Marcolangzi]

New project. Same fight.

This is what we've been cooking in McKernan besides Metro 78.

LDA21-0275 Belgravia Heights DC2 Rezoning

Artist Rendering Thank you for participating in engagement activities for this rezoning application. Please review the information on this page and provide feedback before the end of the day on January 15, 2023. The role of the public is at the ADVISE level of the

engaged.edmonton.ca

Can someone help me to create a project forum? Then we can go over the details.

Thanks,
-M

 

[Marcolangzi]

There's a thread on this.

11414-11430 76 Avenue NW - 6 storeys - proposed

Proposed Rezoning The City has received an application to rezone the properties at 11414, 11416, 11426, 11428 and 11430 76 Avenue NW from the Small Scale Infill Development Zone (RF3)(External link)with the Mature Neighbourhood Overlay(External link) to a Site-Specific Development Control...

edmonton.skyrisecities.com

Hi Ian, thanks for your help.

If you don't mind here is another one that is going to public hearing on February 21.

LDA22-0373 - Windsor Park 118 Street DC2

** This engagement opportunity is now closed. You can find a copy of the What We Heard report here.** Thank you for participating in engagement activities for this rezoning application. Please review the information on this page and provide feedback before the end

engaged.edmonton.ca

See the comments from the residents....

-M

 

[IanO]

Similar to the first one, there is thread this project too.

Windsor Park 118 Street DC2 - 6 storeys

LDA22-0373 - Windsor Park 118 Street DC2 The proposed DC2 Provision would allow for the development of a short mid-rise residential building with the following key characteristics: Maximum heights ranging from 14.5 metres at the north end of the site to 20 metres at the south end...

edmonton.skyrisecities.com

It's sometimes tricky to find if there is a thread already started, but try using the search function to see what you can find first.

Cheers.

 

[Airboy]

wow a lot of houses removed for that last one.

 

[Avenuer]

wow a lot of houses removed for that last one.

Yup, and some recently-constructed infill houses as well, some of which are for sale right now to move to a new lot off the property.

 

[TAS]

Yup, and some recently-constructed infill houses as well, some of which are for sale right now to move to a new lot off the property.

Why does it say those homes have fully developed basement suites. Are they going to dig up the house from below the foundation and drop it into a new hole in the ground? Let's move them to Emerald!