David A
Senior Member
Yes, but ICE District despite sort of becoming the Bank District is still also an entertainment district with the arena and nearby hotels.
*unless katz can get the province or city to fund it.Can confirm through a source that any plan for a tower here is dead.
Did they sell to a new owner?Can confirm through a source that any plan for a tower here is dead.
I believe it is still on the market.Did they sell to a new owner?
So frustrating for taxpayers to be subsidizing this stuff when they’re not even finishing massive parts of it.
Half baked, value engineered projects - The Edmonton design language.Can confirm through a source that any plan for a tower here is dead.
Someone in the future remind me that I said phase two will be half finished/baked too. Terrible. Glad we got the bank district, though. "Come to Edmonton, where you can visit some banks after the hockey game."Can confirm through a source that any plan for a tower here is dead.
Re: The coffee discussion above, it still really stands out to me that Starbucks had a location in ICE District (near the community rink, iirc) but quickly pulled the plug on it. (And this was pre-pandemic!) I think ICE District is nice, but there are a lot of folks, in the planning stages, who really oversold its impact on downtown retail.While there are various fast food places in nearby food courts, it would be good to see something you don't have to go into a building to access and something that could have more flexible hours.
It boggles the mind that ICE District is not on the radar of Earls, Keg or some other major chain and the only food and drink places here are bars, a coffee cart and a place in a clothing store.
IMO Starbucks has really lost it over the last few years, so maybe it is not so bad they are not here, although I would think it would actually be a good location for them. However, it would be nicer to see some decent local coffee place set up here.Re: The coffee discussion above, it still really stands out to me that Starbucks had a location in ICE District (near the community rink, iirc) but quickly pulled the plug on it. (And this was pre-pandemic!) I think ICE District is nice, but there are a lot of folks, in the planning stages, who really oversold its impact on downtown retail.
I agree and CIBC in particular has a very nice historic branch on Jasper Ave which they spent a lot of money to renovate and attached to a nice office tower they have space in.Other than having more cash than they know what to do with, I don't see the value in banks collecting in one location, especially where the emphasis is entertainment -- surely TV commercials are cheaper than the rent they are expected to pay monthly.
Re: The coffee discussion above, it still really stands out to me that Starbucks had a location in ICE District (near the community rink, iirc) but quickly pulled the plug on it. (And this was pre-pandemic!) I think ICE District is nice, but there are a lot of folks, in the planning stages, who really oversold its impact on downtown retail.
Even on game days the place quickly became devoid of activity once people realized they couldn't bring in their SB beverage into the arena past security. Like who were they planning on selling to? How did Katz Group hoodwink them so bad on foot traffic estimates? Been a lot of strange and questionable decisions this past decade on their Edmonton portfolio... 109 & Jasper closure remains puzzling to me.That SB was in a really odd location, at the backside of the casino in an area with very little foot traffic on non-game/event days (where people enter Rogers through the LRT station in the back. I think it would’ve done better if it was in the plaza or on ground level (like where Servus just opened).