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What do you think of this project?

  • I like it a lot

    Votes: 9 34.6%

  • I like it

    Votes: 14 53.8%

  • I neither like nor dislike it

    Votes: 3 11.5%

  • I dislike it

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I dislike it a lot

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    26
buildings said:
looks very close to the original rendering back in 2019 and back then, people were falling over themselves with effusive praise... what changed?
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I wouldn't describe it as "very close." The three big things that pop out to me are that (1) a lot of windows were shrunk, (2) the second floor balcony was shrunk (although I'm not too concerned about this), and (3) and the cladding was changed from a uniform white to a strange patchwork. It's clear, looking at the second floor of the west elevation, that they even made some mistakes in installing the cladding, switching panels of different colors around.
 
A day shot from Friday. Not horrible.
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constance_chlore said:
It definitely could have been worse, but the weird inconsistencies in cladding in the first two stories really bugs me.
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Isn't that the "thing" these days? Every building seems to be clad in the odds and ends of a variety of finishings. It's incomprehensible to me but seems to have become the standard.
 
ADob said:
Isn't that the "thing" these days? Every building seems to be clad in the odds and ends of a variety of finishings. It's incomprehensible to me but seems to have become the standard.
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I'm thinking of things like this that looks quite straightforwardly like mistakes.

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And on the first and second floors, there's the alternation of brick and stucco-ish material that are the same dark color and look meant to blend together, but they don't. I don't like the patchwork of colors and materials that every five-over-one has, including the Westrich and Leston projects, but this looks distinctly sloppier.
 
Having spent a big chunk of this summer watching the Giro d'Italia, Tour de France, and Vuelta a España, one thing that really stood out to me, aside of course from the gorgeous old architecture, was the beautiful, simple, well-executed new architecture. The multi-family buildings tended to be predominantly white stucco, obviously high-quality windows, and very little frippery. I know I'm repeating myself but if you build something well, then simplicity is key.

Kinda like testing a new pizza joint's mettle by ordering a margherita. If they can do simple well, then they're a good pizza joint. If they make crap pizza and top it with artichokes, caramelized pineapple, creme fraiche, pickled zucchini flowers, seven kinds of cheese, and a drizzle of honey (and don't get me wrong, I loves me a well-made All The Things pizza!), then despite all the fancy toppings, it's still a crap pizza. I wish we'd do our buildings simply and well.
 
^ Absolutely! The thing is the developers/design teams are not entirely to blame. If the public accepts the crap then the general "we" are bound to get a lot more of it. That is why we need to be a lot more discerning in what we accept and expect.
 
ADob said:
Having spent a big chunk of this summer watching the Giro d'Italia, Tour de France, and Vuelta a España, one thing that really stood out to me, aside of course from the gorgeous old architecture, was the beautiful, simple, well-executed new architecture. The multi-family buildings tended to be predominantly white stucco, obviously high-quality windows, and very little frippery. I know I'm repeating myself but if you build something well, then simplicity is key.

Kinda like testing a new pizza joint's mettle by ordering a margherita. If they can do simple well, then they're a good pizza joint. If they make crap pizza and top it with artichokes, caramelized pineapple, creme fraiche, pickled zucchini flowers, seven kinds of cheese, and a drizzle of honey (and don't get me wrong, I loves me a well-made All The Things pizza!), then despite all the fancy toppings, it's still a crap pizza. I wish we'd do our buildings simply and well.
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I am ok with some simple well executed new architecture. In a place with gorgeous old architecture something simple and well executed stands out and provides variety. Here not so much if every other building is similar.
 
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