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^ That is one excellent idea @thommyjo -- there are few plants that are sustainable through the winter in above ground planters unless there is a specific effort made to protect root-zone material. There are some, however, and these could be the basis for a starting point that could then be added to with annuals for summer color. I made a list of these possibilities in my zone 3 + 4 thread makings for vertical planters for Old Strathcona -- https://edmonton.skyrisecities.com/...athcona-the-garneau-real-estate.30154/page-19
 
Happy Holidays everyone!

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TAS said:
I made inquiry to Coun Stevenson about planters along dt valley line that are dead as well as other planters near Corona Station etc.

Here is response:
"The planters along 102 avenue were installed as a part of the Valley Line Southeast project. Unfortunately, the plantings have not been successful due to the damage caused by social disorder. City staff are working on a viable planting scheme that would be more resilient for this location. For the planters along the LRT Entrance, the LRT team has received a quote by the Landscaping Services team and are just waiting for approval on these.

Unfortunately, the budget for tax levy funded flower programs have been discontinued as of 2025. In some cases where there is budget, beds may be converted to turf, shrub beds, tree planting areas, or perennial flower beds which take less work to care for than annual flower beds.

I also agree that having beautiful and vibrant community spaces is very important, and I hope we can revisit these budget lines at some point in the future to see if there are ways we can bring back the Annual Flower Program."
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hanging plants be a partial solution for now
 
Worth watching, from 1984

Shocking that the same conversation is happening 40+ years later and how in some ways it looks way most bustling then in the footage. "but at night in contrast to many Canadian cities downtown dies". The fact that very little has changed in addressing these same issues doesn''t give me much hope that I will see a major turn around for another generation or two. 😞

 
Ohman said:
Worth watching, from 1984

Shocking that the same conversation is happening 40+ years later and how in some ways it looks way most bustling then in the footage. "but at night in contrast to many Canadian cities downtown dies". The fact that very little has changed in addressing these same issues doesn''t give me much hope that I will see a major turn around for another generation or two. 😞

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More residents are needed.

End of story
 
Ohman said:
Worth watching, from 1984

Shocking that the same conversation is happening 40+ years later and how in some ways it looks way most bustling then in the footage. "but at night in contrast to many Canadian cities downtown dies". The fact that very little has changed in addressing these same issues doesn''t give me much hope that I will see a major turn around for another generation or two. 😞

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Not sure if the problems are the same actually. I’d argue we’ve made progress in many areas, and yet also faced headwinds in many others.

Back then, you had a small city, where everyone could access downtown in less than 20 minutes. Today, half our city is more than a 20min drive to downtown and those beyond the henday especially will rarely want to travel DT.

Back then you had most workers DT, today we have WFH and suburban office parks.

Back then you had major retail DT and a lot less in the suburbs. WEM was new. Now you have generations that have never thought once about “shopping downtown” and the major malls or power centres is the habitual option.

Back then you had little residential, so the weekends and evenings were empty. We’ve made big progress on that comparatively.

Social disorder back then was barely a factor. There was crime, but nothing like the drug crisis of today.

Some steps forwards, some steps back.
 
thommyjo said:
Back then you had major retail DT and a lot less in the suburbs. WEM was new. Now you have generations that have never thought once about “shopping downtown” and the major malls or power centres is the habitual option.
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The most recent type of downtown shopping that I think people came to the core to experience in bigger numbers was the 104st farmer's market on Saturdays - but not the smaller current version, the previous one that took up 104st from Jasper Ave to north of 102 ave and then also along102Ave that started near 105st and stretched out to nearly 103st.

I was living in Griesbach at that time and often came downtown for that. At the time I worked at Millennium Place and would usually see someone I knew from Sherwood Park there, too. It was a great weekly downtown shopping experience.
 
The good thing about the current downtown plan compared to the 1984 one is there’s actual substantial funding going into it.

I think in terms of residential unit growth, we’ve finally hit some momentum and we’re going to make decent progress by 2030.

The sticky issues imo are retail, perception and social disorder tbh. But I’ve got faith those will get addressed in some way over the next few years.
 
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