David A
Senior Member
There are many problems, but one of them is that the level of policing in the area is not what is being represented to our city government.
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Downtown Crime
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IanO
Superstar
3 incidents this week at our place. How is that reasonable or acceptable EPS? COE? DECL?
Not good enough
Not good enough
Greenspace
Senior Member
Understand you are frustrated, and it is unacceptable. However I have talked to several residents in your building and there's some remedies and suggestions I've made that could be implemented that other buildings have done.
IanO
Superstar
Travelling Italy right now and there is a police presence everywhere. Edmonton honestly feels far more unsafe and undesirable to explore than it was a few days ago.
Time for change and time for a higher bar.
Time for change and time for a higher bar.
Barnaby
Active Member
I don't understand the general public's unwillingness to call out EPS directly. They have the resources to provide security. West Edmonton Mall security would do a better job.
Kosy123
Active Member
Online petition to the Ghermezian family to provide WEM security to downtown to shame EPS?
David A
Senior Member
I have heard parts of Italy have a bad reputation for pickpockets, so be careful and that may be why there is more police presence there particularly in high traffic tourist spaces.
If so, that is reactive, but that is better than here. Yes, I agree the Ghermezian's probably could do a better job with downtown safety and security than EPS is now. Sad really.
buildings
Active Member
here's an odd thing. yesterday I saw a person in our back alley having a freak out. I called 911 (they were being aggressive). The 911 operator asked me to keep an eye out on this person and call them back if they left or it resolved some other way. after about 20mins, said person wandered away so I called back... The operator told me that the police had been dispatched and came to the address I gave and took care of things. I responded by telling them that no police had come as I had my eye on the person the whole time (clear view from my home office window). Operator insisted that they had been in communication with the responding officers. who reported they took care of it. odd. (edit. I called 311 first and they told me to call 911)
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IanO
Superstar
Walked home 5 blocks last night.
- Guy in a hoodie, most of face covered, backpack and a portable grinder walking down 104st. Decided to carve a tree, cut a light wire, who knows what else...
- Outside of convenience on 104st/99, a guy strung out blocking entrance in a very particular stance, looking unstable - I decided not to go into the store.
- Lady in our vestibule sleeping in front of the intercom with garbage strewn about.
Edmonton, really, REALLY needs to find more resources to help more people get out of some of these situations and EPS really REALLY needs to bring beats back south of Jasper into the areas top of bank.
- Guy in a hoodie, most of face covered, backpack and a portable grinder walking down 104st. Decided to carve a tree, cut a light wire, who knows what else...
- Outside of convenience on 104st/99, a guy strung out blocking entrance in a very particular stance, looking unstable - I decided not to go into the store.
- Lady in our vestibule sleeping in front of the intercom with garbage strewn about.
Edmonton, really, REALLY needs to find more resources to help more people get out of some of these situations and EPS really REALLY needs to bring beats back south of Jasper into the areas top of bank.
Rapperswill
New Member
I was down near Kingsway Mall for a couple of days at the end of October. It was like a scene from the Fallout videogame series I tell ya. Homeless and drug users everywhere; all scooched up against the mall with their tents and shopping carts.
I went to a gas station to buy a few things, 3-4 people outside, one with a hospital blanket on, the others were just barely able to stand. Every single one of them tried to get my attention. Employee inside unlocks the front door for me, locks it right away as soon as I walk in. Inside the store looks half empty. I ask where the protein bars are and he says they're not available because they're easy to take off the shelves.
The next day I went to a grocery store, couple of shady people standing at the exit/entrance trying to get my attention and everyone else's. "Hey, hey, come here, hey hey, yo"
Coffee shops (not Tim Hortons), everything was off the counters. No cream, no sugars etc... I had to tell the employee what I want in my coffee.
Female trying to sort through a piece of tinfoil in front of Shoppers. Looked like drugs to me. Also barely able to stand. Security Guard inside making sure she doesn't enter.
Went to a restaurant, the employee asks if I will be needing the bathroom code because it has been changed once again.
None of this is eye opening to me. I've called Edmonton my home for many years now and I'm thankful for everything that this city and this province has done for me and my family. I'm also not an expert on this issue either nor do I know what's already being done about it. All I can say is, I hope things improve. I do like Edmonton though, I miss home sometimes (Mississauga) but I'm a firm believer that our biggest financial burden in Canada is mortgage/rent. We get rid of that and life just gets better. Edmonton is that last remaining stronghold where you can still live in a big city and be mortgage free long before death. But the clock is ticking for that too unfortunately.
I went to a gas station to buy a few things, 3-4 people outside, one with a hospital blanket on, the others were just barely able to stand. Every single one of them tried to get my attention. Employee inside unlocks the front door for me, locks it right away as soon as I walk in. Inside the store looks half empty. I ask where the protein bars are and he says they're not available because they're easy to take off the shelves.
The next day I went to a grocery store, couple of shady people standing at the exit/entrance trying to get my attention and everyone else's. "Hey, hey, come here, hey hey, yo"
Coffee shops (not Tim Hortons), everything was off the counters. No cream, no sugars etc... I had to tell the employee what I want in my coffee.
Female trying to sort through a piece of tinfoil in front of Shoppers. Looked like drugs to me. Also barely able to stand. Security Guard inside making sure she doesn't enter.
Went to a restaurant, the employee asks if I will be needing the bathroom code because it has been changed once again.
None of this is eye opening to me. I've called Edmonton my home for many years now and I'm thankful for everything that this city and this province has done for me and my family. I'm also not an expert on this issue either nor do I know what's already being done about it. All I can say is, I hope things improve. I do like Edmonton though, I miss home sometimes (Mississauga) but I'm a firm believer that our biggest financial burden in Canada is mortgage/rent. We get rid of that and life just gets better. Edmonton is that last remaining stronghold where you can still live in a big city and be mortgage free long before death. But the clock is ticking for that too unfortunately.
Oliver_William
New Member
I think you mean to say the province really needs to find more resources to help people get out of some of these situations given it’s the province that is responsible for healthcare, mental health, addictions and public security. But they sit on their multi billion dollar surpluses year over a year and do nothing to help us because of course they don’t like Edmonton at all. Also worth noting talking to my friend today in Vancouver who lives on the corner of Nelson and Denman in the West End and they are facing the same issues there. Stranger attacks and more than what has been reported in our local media over the past couple of weeks, vandalism, homelessness, open drug use etc. His building has been broken into four times over the last month. So we are not alone in facing this. But the province really needs to step up here I’m sick and tired of seeing my city become degraded by all this open drug use and disorder.
IanO
Superstar
Agreed in full, but we have FAR less normal activity vis a vis.
Barnaby
Active Member
Repetitively violent people should be locked up and forgotten about, and that's the extremely moderate opinion. I'm getting very frustrated with apologist opinions from upper class men/women that don't have to deal with the reality of what transit users, young women, and children are forced to. I'm not going to listen to someone living in a virtual walled garden anymore.
David A
Senior Member
There is still a perception this is a downtown problem. Unfortunately, these problems are no longer just in the downtown core, or adjacent inner city (areas such as Kingsway), but are becoming more pervasive in the city.
There is no fence that keeps these people in a small area so they now wonder throughout the city, including "nicer" areas such as Old Strathcona, Westmount, West Ed, Millwoods and so on.
If the people power in our city and society do not smarten up soon, these problems will also be noticeable on their doorsteps in their nice virtually gated communities like Glenora and Riverbend too.
kcantor
Senior Member
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Just because “these problems are no longer just in the downtown core, or adjacent inner city (areas such as Kingsway), but are becoming more pervasive in the city” doesn’t make them less of a problem in the downtown core or adjacent inner city areas.
Just because “these problems are no longer just in the downtown core, or adjacent inner city (areas such as Kingsway), but are becoming more pervasive in the city” doesn’t make them less of a problem in the downtown core or adjacent inner city areas.