constance_chlore
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Cycling and Active Transportation in Edmonton
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TAS
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thefreezebreeze
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Found it: https://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/initiatives_innovation/mass-transit-implementation-project
Full booklet: https://www.edmonton.ca/sites/defau...ute-B1-Draft-Design-Booklet.pdf?cb=1763428731
Option 1: https://www.edmonton.ca/sites/defau...ss-Transit-Route-B1-Option1.pdf?cb=1763428731
Option 2: https://www.edmonton.ca/sites/defau...ss-Transit-Route-B1-Option2.pdf?cb=1763428731
Option 3: https://www.edmonton.ca/sites/default/files/public-files/Mass-Transit-Route-B1-Option3.pdf?cb=1763428
edit: Option 2 seems the most sensible for directness, though the option 3 transformation of the traffic circle is intriguing and honestly having the stops near Nait, kingsway, and the hospital could be very useful.
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CplKlinger
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I'm really torn between options two and three. I'm a huge supporter of centre running design since it could reduce misuse by private automobiles and better prepare/reserve the right-of-way for LRT, but it'd be great for this to integrate with the Kingsway transit centre.
trevorhayden
Active Member
Option 3 duplicates the Metro line. Not preferred.
SarcasticMarmot
Active Member
I'd take option 1 or 3 just to get rid of the frankencircle on 101st and 118th. Hate that place.
More seriously, I need to think about how these impact 111th ave. It's our only decent east to west route north of the river without going all the way up to the Yellowhead. Option 1 and 2 looks like a hell of a lane cross for the buses when going from 101st to turn left on 97th. Crossing all 3 lanes in a very short block to make that left seems like a high chance of accidents. That spot is already crazy.
More seriously, I need to think about how these impact 111th ave. It's our only decent east to west route north of the river without going all the way up to the Yellowhead. Option 1 and 2 looks like a hell of a lane cross for the buses when going from 101st to turn left on 97th. Crossing all 3 lanes in a very short block to make that left seems like a high chance of accidents. That spot is already crazy.
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thommyjo
Senior Member
Today is the last day to add supportive comments to the neighborhood renewal of belmead and la pearle. Please support active mode improvements being made! The positive feedback goes a long way for the city team. Critiques and feedback of course are welcome too. But they usually only hear from the haters.
cityofedmonton.qualtrics.com
BGN La Perle and Belmead Final Design Survey - Oct 2025
You are invited to ADVISE the team on how the final design reflects the Vision and Guiding Principles for La Perle and Belmead Neighbourhood Renewal and the current and future needs of your community.
thommyjo
Senior Member
113st is nice and open. This is the MUP north of 111th ave to kingsway that’s almost done.
TAS
Senior Member
Here is update on $100 million Accelerated Active Transportation Network Expansion (2023-26).
$73 million spent so far.
35.5km constructed to date in 2024 and 2025.
71km - total expected to be completed with the $100 million (this is reduction in total km from initial plan due to higher costs). Note: new snow removal equipment was also purchased with this money (didn't receive total cost of that).
2025 projects: 18 of 24 projects completed (72%) for a total of 18.1km. Remaining projects will be completed in 2026. These uncompleted projects are part of the $73million spent so far.
For the final $27 million
2026: 16 routes planned for a total of 25km + 6 unfinished projects from 2025 such as Kingsway Ave and Victoria Park Rd (again the 2025 projects are already contracted and money allocated as part of $73million spent so far)
2027: 107 Avenue project + unfinished projects from 2026
Snow removal:
Priority 1 (protected routes) within 24hr clearance
Priority 2 (new multi-use paths) within 72 hours
New: city will 'look at' clearing the 2025 local street bikeway routes as pilot
Clearing snow of new routes is posing a challenge because many routes transition from protected, to MUP, to shared street, back to protected or MUP etc - all with different priority clearance guidelines and different equipment needs.
$73 million spent so far.
35.5km constructed to date in 2024 and 2025.
71km - total expected to be completed with the $100 million (this is reduction in total km from initial plan due to higher costs). Note: new snow removal equipment was also purchased with this money (didn't receive total cost of that).
2025 projects: 18 of 24 projects completed (72%) for a total of 18.1km. Remaining projects will be completed in 2026. These uncompleted projects are part of the $73million spent so far.
For the final $27 million
2026: 16 routes planned for a total of 25km + 6 unfinished projects from 2025 such as Kingsway Ave and Victoria Park Rd (again the 2025 projects are already contracted and money allocated as part of $73million spent so far)
2027: 107 Avenue project + unfinished projects from 2026
Snow removal:
Priority 1 (protected routes) within 24hr clearance
Priority 2 (new multi-use paths) within 72 hours
New: city will 'look at' clearing the 2025 local street bikeway routes as pilot
Clearing snow of new routes is posing a challenge because many routes transition from protected, to MUP, to shared street, back to protected or MUP etc - all with different priority clearance guidelines and different equipment needs.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Clearing snow based on the “type” instead of the route makes 0 sense to me.
I’ve been harping on the city for YEARS about 102ave. It’s a bike lane from downtown till 126st, but then becomes a MUP after groat road. But 80% of riders using that route at 124st have come from west of groat. Yet 127-136st they treat as 3 day MUP priority and not 24hr priority.
Beyond stupid. Would take less than 30min to just go all the way down to where the route stops.
Also, MUPs actually need higher priority than bike lanes IMO as pedestrians more quickly cause the paths to be dangerous from snow pack and the impact of freeze thaw from walked on paths is worse.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Also very concerned for 95ave and 107ave. No designs out yet. Highly likely they make sections “bikeways” and do nothing to make them safe enough for my kids to ride on them. These are our major E/W routes on the west end.
Would be interested to understand the cost of the staff behind this project. The results are beyond underwhelming imo. 5 years of full time employment for very mediocre results and way behind schedule.
ntt1
Active Member
While patchwork plowing work when driving is a slight annoyance, it can render certain sections of paths for cycling/active transport impassable. Especially shared-use paths near bus stops on busy roads, those should not be on a 3-day schedule. It's so frustrating when it snows immediately after it gets plowed (after waiting 3 days). Then you wait 3 days again, rinse and repeat.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Totally. And MUP are so hard to clean after 3 days of walking. Do it in the first day and it’ll actually clear it. Do it after 3 and you’re just contributing to the ice pack most times…
And wouldn’t more people use MUPs than bike lanes anyways in more central areas? Arguably the user benefit is higher so they should be equally prioritized.
TAS
Senior Member
Oh boy. New legislation coming soon. This has impacts on 2026 network expansion and there is concern at city. I guess the municipal election results mean nothing to the UCP.
Devin Dreeshen:
"It’s frustrating the message isn’t sinking in at city halls in Calgary and Edmonton. Other provinces have legislation to rein in ridiculous bike lanes and that is something we’re considering in Alberta.
“This type of social engineering, trying to change people’s behaviour when they don’t want to change is just ruining cities by taking away their vehicle lanes and parking. It is stupid.”
Complete nonsense - No driver has had to change their choice to drive due to bike lanes or multi-use paths. Not even close. But 1/3rd of people don't or can't drive or don't drive all the time - they deserve safe, viable options to get around, not just one.
calgaryherald.com
Devin Dreeshen:
"It’s frustrating the message isn’t sinking in at city halls in Calgary and Edmonton. Other provinces have legislation to rein in ridiculous bike lanes and that is something we’re considering in Alberta.
“This type of social engineering, trying to change people’s behaviour when they don’t want to change is just ruining cities by taking away their vehicle lanes and parking. It is stupid.”
Complete nonsense - No driver has had to change their choice to drive due to bike lanes or multi-use paths. Not even close. But 1/3rd of people don't or can't drive or don't drive all the time - they deserve safe, viable options to get around, not just one.
Bell: Bike lane crackdown looms, Smith's UCP demands Calgary numbers
Danielle Smith UCP government still looking at a bike lane crackdown while Calgary city hall won't cough up usage numbers.
calgaryherald.com
trevorhayden
Active Member
This is absolutely disgusting, disrespectful, and unacceptable behaviour towards fellow Albertans. I would never speak to anyone in such a rude manner.
As a reminder, you can volunteer, donate, or lead a recall campaign against him and the UCP at Operation Total Recall. Time is running out to lend a hand. The UCP's days are numbered.
As a reminder, you can volunteer, donate, or lead a recall campaign against him and the UCP at Operation Total Recall. Time is running out to lend a hand. The UCP's days are numbered.