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Old Strathcona / Whyte Avenue

I think that scramble crosswalks seem to work at moderate traffic locations. Whyte/Gateway has heavy traffic in all directions.
 
I think that scramble crosswalks seem to work at moderate traffic locations. Whyte/Gateway has heavy traffic in all directions.
I feel it is also designed for places more pedestrians than in Edmonton. So if it doesn't work here, it probably doesn't make sense elsewhere in Edmonton, except possibly immediately adjacent to facilities that hold large events
 
I feel it is also designed for places more pedestrians than in Edmonton. So if it doesn't work here, it probably doesn't make sense elsewhere in Edmonton, except possibly immediately adjacent to facilities that hold large events
And I would add further that the scramble crosswalks only makes sense when the facilities that hold large events are actually holding large events. Best example is the scramble in front of Roger's place. On hockey game nights and concert nights the scramble definitely should be used. On a regular weekday the scramble is a little bit ridiculous. I have crossed the scramble many a Time when I'm the only one crossing the road during the daytime.
 
Honestly I find that weird. There's literally tonnes of free parking, you just have to walk a couple blocks. And, once again, the original outdoor 104 street market had zero free parking and was always busy.
 
I was there last Sunday and it seemed quite busy to me not packed but doing okay.
 
Honestly I find that weird. There's literally tonnes of free parking, you just have to walk a couple blocks. And, once again, the original outdoor 104 street market had zero free parking and was always busy.
Incredibly super duper weird. OSFM has been busy on Saturdays always even with the paid parking. All the free parking for a few blocks around is always packed on Saturday mornings, and the paid parking lot too.

I seriously call bullshit on this one ngl.
 
Incredibly super duper weird. OSFM has been busy on Saturdays always even with the paid parking. All the free parking for a few blocks around is always packed on Saturday mornings, and the paid parking lot too.

I seriously call bullshit on this one ngl.
Yeah. City news should be verifying that claim before posting an article like this. You can’t just say “50% decrease” without proof.

And even if a 50% decreased happened, you can’t prove it’s purely due to the parking. There’s also inflation challenges on household budgets, other market competition, etc.

The parking lot utilization rate would probably help tell some of the story.
 
Not to mention the extended market days, which would surely affect the number of people on any given day. The article felt very clickbaity and poorly researched. “I’d like to say it’s 50 per cent. Our numbers have declined quite a bit” doesn't have anything solid to back it up.
 
My mom has been going for decades and brushed off the paid parking as she (generally) loves the experience. The bigger issue has been her being asked for money and more folks around there early morning that are clearly not there for the market.

But overall, she loves 'an urban' morning out, coffee on Whyte and coming in from the burbs to see what the city is like for a few hours.

She could go to Terwillegar in the summer or Bountiful, but for her it is about a stroll and something more 'city like'.
 
Yeah, it's the whole experience. Coffee, lunch, people watching. As far as panhandlers (is that still a term being used???), that's something that might be good to chat with the market organizers about. I'm absolutely sure they would want to know all relevant reasons people might skip the market and not just bitch about parking.
 

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