AntonK
Active Member
There’s those issues as well, and they can’t be overstated.
Many of my downtown living friends grew tired of the same old issues and instead left for other cities.
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Many of my downtown living friends grew tired of the same old issues and instead left for other cities.
JMatt88
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Its definitely a "catch 22" situation. Sprawl has allowed for affordability, but at the same time the cost to maintain the sprawl will (and likely has already) increased over time. My Vancouver friend was shocked to learn that I paid $4,700 in property taxes last year on my house valued at $458,000. For context, we were walking around North Vancouver looking at SFH and she was like "the property taxes here on that house is probably $5K" and I said "well my property taxes are almost at that" haha
Yeggy
Active Member
after spending a month in europe bring on midrise everywhere.
archited
Senior Member
Keep building cheap crap and see if the situation improves.
Yeggy
Active Member
^what cheap crap are you talking about.
IanO
Superstar
THIS.
We seem to forget about being competitive and working harder to make Edmonton attractive and retain more folks who are mobile and want:
1. great job offerings
2. an urban experience
3. a city that is interesting, exciting, vibrant
Edmcowboy11
Senior Member
I think the downtown core is improving as more and more empty parking lots disappear. Yes I do want to see you far better architecture in these areas but the vibrancy of the downtown will continue to improve as there is more people and more buildings as opposed to fields and Fields of parking lots.
IanO
Superstar
2001 says that exactly what we said back then with 1/10th the disorder and 10x the retail.
thommyjo
Senior Member
I wonder how the valley lines and bike infrastructure change the “net” of the equation for improvements and challenges.
I think disorder is the trump card problem. But arguably in 2029 we will have a much more accessible DT for those living in mature suburbs and out to the henday.
We don’t live downtown, we are in a central, mature neighborhood. But the bike lanes and a frequent bus route with 7min frequencies have been the biggest reason I’m downtown more than if driving was my only option.
policyenthusiast
Senior Member
Yep, I was relieved when I stopped working in DT. Moved out of the core as a result. The City's approach is all money, no mouth.
Tropical
Active Member
I don't know what's going on in your personal sphere Ian, but I've started seeing your online behaviour in a "don't feed the troll" sense, rather than the informative fellow that was so consistently here. Can you please consider giving this a bit of a rest?
(Maybe an online forum isn't all that great for your wellbeing)
northlands
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So true. The greatest value proposition of living downtown is if you also work downtown, If you don't, it's hard to justify it over living in other walkable central neighbourhoods like Wihkwentowin, Garneau, Westmount, Strathcona, or even QMP, Blatchford, or Ritchiewhere there's less social disorder, less construction impacts, less noise, more green spaces and boulevard trees, better options for schools, the list goes on.
I don't mean to be critical on downtown but lord some days living in the core feels like an exercise in tolerance and patience, and I'm running out of both. I actually preferred when Michael Phair and Beaver Hills Park were under construction because it meant all the losers who loiter in them were hanging somewhere else and not adjacent to where I live for once.
ADob
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As a denizen of downtown, I am so with you. We weren't even looking in this area but this condo stole our hearts away. We live in a beautiful building, very well maintained, with great neighbours, a truly fabulous layout, a giant kitchen (bigger and better appointed than anywhere else I've lived, including a big ass house in Texas!), and lots and lots of storage and windows. I love it. BUT: if I could take the whole building and cut and paste it somewhere west of 109 St? I'd do it in a heartbeat! A nanosecond!
As an aside, hearing my Wihkwentowin-living friends look down on our frustration with the homeless while their sense of woke superiority is untainted by human feces on a nearby sidewalk or nearly daily run-ins with the chronically disturbed during the warmer months makes me wanna kick them.
AntonK
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Unfortunately, it feels like there’s no middle ground when it comes to downtown, half the population are in denial saying downtown is wonderful and free of problems, and the other half won’t go near it with a 10 foot pole and slam it in social media any chance they can get.
Tropical
Active Member
The lived reality is nothing like that. Always keep in mind that online algorithms will direct you into the extremes.
I don't think many folks feel that our downtown is wonderful. And yet, demand for housing there is strong and people continue to go there for events, public institutions, work and nightlife. That's the middle ground that most everyone is inhabiting.
I don't think many folks feel that our downtown is wonderful. And yet, demand for housing there is strong and people continue to go there for events, public institutions, work and nightlife. That's the middle ground that most everyone is inhabiting.