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It was a pleasant place. Unfortunately it never did max-out with tenancy. I did retail outlets for a number of tenants in the Heritage mall and that was their main beef -- vacancies at the time of opening.
 
I think though the downfall of Heritage came at the hand of South Common more than to do with Southgate.
Yes, although it probably was more a final nail as there was also other strip mall development closer to Heritage before South Common. Southgate is fortunate to be located further from all this.
 
Heritage was doomed from the beginning. They opened around the time in the downturn in the economy and could never catch up. I believe Bower Place in Red Deer was done about the same time.
 
Heritage was doomed from the beginning. They opened around the time in the downturn in the economy and could never catch up. I believe Bower Place in Red Deer was done about the same time.
Going from memory, Bower and Heritage were both built by the same developer, Daon perhaps? Or maybe Daon did Heritage and Laing built Bower? It's been so long now.
 
Those were the halcyon days of retail. Our office worked on project after project in malls of all shapes and sizes -- bread and butter work. A new trend that is creeping into view and hasn't come to Edmonton yet sees retail set in planned community parks with entertainment, fountains, quick-service kiosks and eateries -- pleasant places to stroll and window shop; cars in underground parking; lots of trees and mass plantings.
 
Those were the halcyon days of retail. Our office worked on project after project in malls of all shapes and sizes -- bread and butter work. A new trend that is creeping into view and hasn't come to Edmonton yet sees retail set in planned community parks with entertainment, fountains, quick-service kiosks and eateries -- pleasant places to stroll and window shop; cars in underground parking; lots of trees and mass plantings.
Yes, most of our malls do not have underground parking, which is perhaps partly due to the era they were built when land around them was much more abundant. The park like setting sounds nicer, but probably works a bit better in places with longer warm seasons. However, I suppose eventually our malls even the busier ones, will have to change as the land is now much more valuable and they are more constrained for expansion. Also having heated underground parking could be a great selling feature here.
 
Yes, most of our malls do not have underground parking, which is perhaps partly due to the era they were built when land around them was much more abundant. The park like setting sounds nicer, but probably works a bit better in places with longer warm seasons. However, I suppose eventually our malls even the busier ones, will have to change as the land is now much more valuable and they are more constrained for expansion. Also having heated underground parking could be a great selling feature here.
I don't know if heated underground parking is as valuable as it seems because Edmonton drivers are incredibly stubborn about wanting to park above ground. The Brewery District is a perfect example, the below ground parking is free and super easy to access. And yet, people still drive around and fight for single open spots above ground even when its empty below ground. I always find it baffling.
 
I don't know if heated underground parking is as valuable as it seems because Edmonton drivers are incredibly stubborn about wanting to park above ground. The Brewery District is a perfect example, the below ground parking is free and super easy to access. And yet, people still drive around and fight for single open spots above ground even when its empty below ground. I always find it baffling.
Yes, that is true and I find it sort of odd as I really like the underground parking there, but I suppose in Brewery District some people are just quickly going into one store and find it faster to park above ground. It may be a bit different for malls where more people may be going to shop longer.
 
I'm willing to bet the farm that underground parking isn't popular because there's this stigma of having to pay for an underground stall. Maybe the dumbasses who operate the Brewery District can erect signs saying that their underground parking is free?
 
I'm willing to bet the farm that underground parking isn't popular because there's this stigma of having to pay for an underground stall. Maybe the dumbasses who operate the Brewery District can erect signs saying that their underground parking is free?
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They should take notes from the Safeway on Jasper:

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I'm willing to bet the farm that underground parking isn't popular because there's this stigma of having to pay for an underground stall. Maybe the dumbasses who operate the Brewery District can erect signs saying that their underground parking is free?
No, this is exactly why I have never tried to use it.
 
I don't know if heated underground parking is as valuable as it seems because Edmonton drivers are incredibly stubborn about wanting to park above ground.
I would not move to Edmonton unless I would be guaranteed secure, heated and protected underground parking. I can't believe how many people appear willing to sacrifice their vehicles to the hail and ice gods.
 

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