bodsbods9090
Senior Member
Any renderings out there for this?
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IanO
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IanO
Superstar
It's been nice to see the City replacing dead or removed trees from 104st and fixing sidewalks over the last few weeks.
IanO
Superstar
Where is everyone? This was taken yesterday on one of our last beautiful fall days pre-Oilers game. I just do not understand how we cannot attract even 100 people to 'our best urban street' on a beautiful day; it reaffirms to me that this city simply is not a patio culture place and it's not just Downtown.
David A
Senior Member
Yes, many of those patios are underutilized. Also, Sunday is often quite dead downtown, even more so now after having to pay for parking until 5 pm.
Add to that we are into the unpredictable fall weather, with temperatures that go up and down a lot from day to day and at times that can be windy in the fall.
Add to that we are into the unpredictable fall weather, with temperatures that go up and down a lot from day to day and at times that can be windy in the fall.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Easy parking alternatives elsewhere, lack of transit/walking culture, low residential population in DT, poor office culture with gov workers zipping back to St. Albert by 4:30 at the latest.
The_Cat
Senior Member
In defense of the government workers heading home at 4:30, many of them have families.
IanO
Superstar
There's '13000' people living Downtown (apparently) and 35000 or so within ~3km.
We don't need 2500 out and about, but certainly 100 people on patios on a beautiful day on our most urban of streets is not a high bar, right?!
We don't need 2500 out and about, but certainly 100 people on patios on a beautiful day on our most urban of streets is not a high bar, right?!
David A
Senior Member
It is not, but there still seems to be little real reason to come or linger downtown except for concerts or hockey games or special events.
There is very little interesting street front or other retail left and what is there is often closed on the weekend or Sunday.
Those 13,000 people have to drive to Unity Square because of the lack of many everyday things nearby and are probably not happy about it, but by now are used to this being ignored by everyone else.
buildings
Active Member
guess there's not as big a drinking culture crowd as some wish. Quite frankly the prices these places charge for a glass of beer or wine are way over the top; triple and quadruple the cost of just buying something at the store and consuming at home.
IanO
Superstar
It''s less about 'drinking culture' and more about dining outside, having coffee or a glass or a pint.
DOSC, Cavern, Credo all have options for folks too.
DOSC, Cavern, Credo all have options for folks too.
Didama
Active Member
one thing is for sure.... let's definitely not make this more of a destination by making this street pedestrianized ;-) this street is in such a state, I'm not surprised no one wants to go hang here. Not that this would be a cure all by any means, but don't expect people to flock to this street it if it looks this. Not sure anyone has ever called this our 'best urban street' either, tbh. Dying trees, cracked asphalt and a bunch of parked cars does not an urban street make
Gronk!
Senior Member
Yesterday's warm weather was likely a factor.
Didama
Active Member
I live just west of downtown and as far as I see it there is almost no reason for us to ever go to 104st, certainly not for patios/outdoor dining. There are better patio options closer to our house and the street scape on 104 is pretty damn depression. So what’s the draw? Nada. That’s why it’s slow.
Until the city puts some money into 104 to turn it into a pedestrian zone that’s easy to activate and make a destination, don’t expect many non downtown residents to come and spend time here. It’s sad, and it needs to be less sad if it wants to be seen as an ‘urban street’.
Until the city puts some money into 104 to turn it into a pedestrian zone that’s easy to activate and make a destination, don’t expect many non downtown residents to come and spend time here. It’s sad, and it needs to be less sad if it wants to be seen as an ‘urban street’.