BrettB
Active Member
yes because the 747 is a separate fare to the rest of the system.
TINA - there is no (other) alternative. A flaw with the US system is it is really only two parties, so as people become increasingly disappointed, frustrated and/or angry with the Orange Menace and his tactics, they only have one other option, unless the republicans disavow or get rid of him, which I feel is very unlikely.As for this year, happy to be proven wrong but I am a bit skeptical on the ability to set a record this year, might just be a overly cautious approach on my behalf. Regarding mid-terms I don't know how those will shake out (Trump popularity not great but Democrat brand isn't strong currently either) and not sure if it matters as Trump isn't going anywhere whether he controls the house/senate or not. Edmonton may well start to see some much needed passenger growth and I am here for it, wherever those travelers are headed.
I was on my parent's deck in the deep south at this time and an AC A330 (AC171) made an unusual maneuver over their house and sure enough it was after a failed landing and diversion to YYC, according to FlightRadar.Apparently a gear failure on a Dash 8 tonight made for some interesting ATC and diversions.
| July 2019 | July 2024 | July 2025 | |
| Total passengers | 325,128 | 340,233 | 344,780 |
| Domestic sector passengers | 285,752 | 287,424 | 304,933 |
| Transborder sector passengers | 30,279 | 44,272 | 32,437 |
| Other International sector passengers | 9,097 | 8,537 | 7,410 |
Statistics Canada released screened passenger data from YEG for July (ie not counting connecting traffic). I've included July 2019 and July 2024 for reference.
July 2019 July 2024 July 2025 Total passengers 325,128 340,233 344,780 Domestic sector passengers 285,752 287,424 304,933 Transborder sector passengers 30,279 44,272 32,437 Other International sector passengers 9,097 8,537 7,410
I don’t see much growth from Porter in the near term either. Not until they open a base somewhere out west and start doing point to point between AB and BC.In terms of growth Westjet & Porter have some room to move. I don't foresee much from Flair or AC. I think Edmonton has a foundation for steady but not explosive growth over the short term.
Yes, I feel Air Canada has ceded a lot of western markets to its duopoly partner Westjet in return for likewise in the east. Not so sure about Flair, but Porter seems to have some ambition and ability to grow.In terms of growth Westjet & Porter have some room to move. I don't foresee much from Flair or AC. I think Edmonton has a foundation for steady but not explosive growth over the short term.
The needle has not moved from the 2014 numbers. Twenty fourteen. Think about that the population of Edmonton has grown about 30% in that time period and the airport passenger numbers have barely budged.
The business travel… it’s dead, Jim. If it makes you feel better, YEG’s not alone. YYC’s passenger numbers from last year are barely a million more than in 2019 (18.9 vs 17.9 million), and that’s despite all the population growth that’s happened there (more than in Edmonton), the growth of their tech industry, more tourism to the mountains and WestJet doubling down on its hub. Apply the same logic to YYC and they should be at 25 million, but they’re still far from it.Part of the reason can be attributed to WS and AC doing their best to protect their hubs but even so there must be some other underlying reason.
This makes total sense and clearly it is not just us. I am relieved the answer is that it is not some Edmonton specific problem as we do not need to add to our sense of inferiority. Although I did doubt that all those people that moved here did not travel much as opposed to those elsewhere, that just did not make sense.The business travel… it’s dead, Jim. If it makes you feel better, YEG’s not alone. YYC’s passenger numbers from last year are barely a million more than in 2019 (18.9 vs 17.9 million), and that’s despite all the population growth that’s happened there (more than in Edmonton), the growth of their tech industry, more tourism to the mountains and WestJet doubling down on its hub. Apply the same logic to YYC and they should be at 25 million, but they’re still far from it.




