Valley Line LRT | TransEd/Marigold | City of Edmonton

The_Cat said:
It sometimes wonder why some roads can’t be closed for LRT construction. 95 Avenue was closed for a summer. I think 156 Street could be closed with buses detouring to 163 Street for the months of May-August.
Click to expand...
163st and 95ave are both having major projects done as part of arterial and neighbourhood renewals starting in 2025.

So idk what the solution is for the LRT. But more stuff is getting closed. Not to mention 102ave/Wellington bridge.

No easy way out.
 
IanO said:
Close it up, work 24 (maybe 12-14) and get er done.
andrewknack.ca

Short Term Pain for Long Term Gain? — Andrew Knack for Mayor

Road construction is exhausting. That’s not a revolutionary statement but I bring it up because I’m hearing from more and more people about the ongoing road construction every year. This is particularly relevant because we don’t just have the regular road construction, we have that combined with al
andrewknack.ca andrewknack.ca
Click to expand...
This article has to be a parody right?

A Sunday, and he’s complaining that no one was working? Construction workers already work 6 days a week, usually 10-12 hours per day from May to October. Why would they be working on a Sunday? Not surprised Knack, a public shrill, has no idea about this since all he’s done is work in city hall.

“Road construction is the easiest”, sure, but road construction happens after utility relocation, duct bank work, abandonments, setting forms, catch basins etc. it’s not merely paving and pouring concrete.

I don’t mind 24/7 work, but who knows if MIP / other contractors want to pay for all the overtime? Might be cheaper for them to pay the late penalties than all the OT. Just my two cents
 
Work hours outside of the 9-5 are certainly becoming more common and more attractive for some; for Councillor Knacks proposal to happen this cannot be OT money.
 
IanO said:
Work hours outside of the 9-5 are certainly becoming more common and more attractive for some; for Councillor Knacks proposal to happen this cannot be OT money.
Click to expand...

It would be OT money. Labour is very thin, and I believe you know this. I think closing the roads just gets cars out of the way. This needs to happen with major projects.
 
IanO said:
Work hours outside of the 9-5 are certainly becoming more common and more attractive for some; for Councillor Knacks proposal to happen this cannot be OT money.
Click to expand...
Okay then it’s capped at 40 hours (M-F) 7-3. So you’ll need 3 shifts total just for the weekdays. Good luck with that
 
J_gordo said:
Okay then it’s capped at 40 hours (M-F) 7-3. So you’ll need 3 shifts total just for the weekdays. Good luck with that
Click to expand...
Didn't Marigold float a plan to triple its workforce this year? Maybe that's dependent on whatever is in this report getting approved?
 
bodsbods9090 said:
What world do you live in?

Of course this'll be OT work.
Click to expand...
It would only be OT if it was the same crew pulling longer than 8 hours per day. Three separate crews pulling 8 hours each (6 to 14, 14 to 22, 22 to 6) would not be OT but at least one of the crew would be getting night shift premium
 
AJo said:
It would only be OT if it was the same crew pulling longer than 8 hours per day. Three separate crews pulling 8 hours each (6 to 14, 14 to 22, 22 to 6) would not be OT but at least one of the crew would be getting night shift premium
Click to expand...
Like some have said, is there enough of a workforce out there to be able to pull that off?
 
AJo said:
It would only be OT if it was the same crew pulling longer than 8 hours per day. Three separate crews pulling 8 hours each (6 to 14, 14 to 22, 22 to 6) would not be OT but at least one of the crew would be getting night shift premium
Click to expand...

Bingo.

I don't quite get why we cannot do shift work on major projects such as this; it's how major projects get done around the world and how many of our everyday products also get produced.
 
I've seen projects slow walk the early stages when the critical path runs through procurement. Electrical and control equipment usually has very long lead times, so early scope could be detached from the completion date.

It can benefit your risk profile (in case of unexpected stuff underground) to get non critical items started early, it can get very expensive though as you pay site support/management costs for a longer duration.

IMO in large projects there's usually no free lunch, everything is trade offs. Even then Humans simply aren't capable of managing complex projects effectively; effective project management requires the right organization/institution and there's alot of waste no matter what.
 
IanO said:
Bingo.

I don't quite get why we cannot do shift work on major projects such as this; it's how major projects get done around the world and how many of our everyday products also get produced.
Click to expand...
I fully support moving to a shift model for disruptive infrastructure work.

Years ago I was in SLC for a conference and the 6 lane roadway near our hotel was completely torn up and redone over a long weekend with workers going around the clock. Fully paved, painted and open for traffic Monday AM.

If that project was done in Edmonton it would have stretched out to an entire season, maybe even two!

The premium for a high shift crew pales in comparison to the overall gains to businesses, commuters and the local community when costly disruptions are as brief as possible.
 
You must log in or register to post here.

Back
Top