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Heard today that VL lrt ridership makes up 0.4% of all transit usage in Edmonton.

I wonder what the city's targets are?
 
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TAS said:
Heard today that VL lrt ridership makes up 0.4% of all transit usage in Edmonton.

I wonder what the city's targets are?
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Interesting stat. Looks like all of ETS had 5.3 million trips in May 2024 which means 212,000 trips on Valley line for an average of 6839 riders per day.
 
Barnaby said:
0.04 = 4%.

The ridership for VLSE is over 200k/ day.
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What Coun. Tang was told today at executive committee is that valley line ridership is a "very, very small percentage" of overall numbers. That it's 0.4%. Not 4%.

Tang then asked if ridership numbers are based on tapping ARC card, thinking the number is artificially low because people aren't tapping. However, she was told the numbers are from APC - automated passenger counters on the trains, and so the numbers aren't being under-reported.
 
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scyeg said:
I can't believe how many bad drivers are out there. The other day I watched as a woman struggled to pull her vehicle into a Costco (!!!) parking spot and had to rely on guidance from a group of people—jerking back and forth and slamming on her brakes each time. This woman was not trying to back in, she was literally struggling to pull forward into an oversized Costco spot with a child in her back seat. People crash into the LRT because they are terrible drivers and somehow are still able to get a license.
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And I mean, no right on red signs are fairly obvious if you're paying attention.
 
TAS said:
What Coun. Tang was told today at executive committee is that valley line ridership is a "very, very small percentage" of overall numbers. That it's 0.4%. Not 4%.

Tang than asked if ridership numbers are based on tapping ARC card, thinking the number is artificially low because people aren't tapping. However, she was told the numbers are from APC - automated passenger counters on the trains, and so the numbers aren't being under-reported.
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I think it's a matter that many people have yet to discover the Valley Line. The other night going home from the Metallica concert I witnessed a couple different small groups of people asking security at Churchill station how to get to millwoods via the Valley Line.
 
I think that the Valley Line LRT use will be organic. The first riders are those who took transit route 73. As more people discover the benefits of the network (like the Metallica fans), ridership will grow.
 
BASE said:
Interesting stat. Looks like all of ETS had 5.3 million trips in May 2024 which means 212,000 trips on Valley line for an average of 6839 riders per day.
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Barnaby said:
0.04 = 4%.

The ridership for VLSE is over 200k/ day.
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Not a chance. If it it was 200k/ day, monthly ridership would be well north if 4 million riders per month.
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I'm gonna have to agree that these numbers aren't right.
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I believe BASE's first post, quoted above, is correct based upon prior figures posted in this thread.
 
EdwardEdm said:
Not a chance. If it it was 200k/ day, monthly ridership would be well north if 4 million riders per month.

I believe BASE's first post, quoted above, is correct based upon prior figures posted in this thread.
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I think BASE is correct as well. If anyone wants to check out where Coun. Tang is told what VLSE ridership is at, it's this time period on the image below..

Actually the city transit person said ".04 percent" so she must have meant 4%? I'm sorry for not catching that.

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Link to meeting is here.
 
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Reading news stories, there seems to be a lot of confusion. Coun. Rutherford was quoted in the story BASE linked to above as saying there were 100,000 riders per day on VLSE which is way off and not true.

I found that there were 223,000 'monthly' riders in April 2024 or about 7,300 per day. Ridership dropped in May - probably because post secondary schools are out. Currently, Valley Line Southeast represents around 13 per cent of total 'LRT ridership'.

So 4% of total ETS ridership seems right.
 
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