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This is gonna sound like wishful thinking, but do you guys think that frequencies would increase in this line generally once VLW opens? Looking at their weekend frequencies, part of me thinks that's woefully inadequate when WEM gets connected to the network.
 

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As we approach the year's end, here are some of the milestones accomplished by Marigold so far:
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Old Stony Plain Road bridge demolition
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New Stony Plain Road bridge girder installation
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Progress on Anthony Henday Drive bridge
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30% completed of the elevated guideway
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Marigold Infrastructure Partners - Valley Line West​

As we approach the year's end, here are some of the milestones accomplished by Marigold so far:
🚧
Old Stony Plain Road bridge demolition
🌉
New Stony Plain Road bridge girder installation
🏗️
Progress on Anthony Henday Drive bridge
🚆
30% completed of the elevated guideway
Want to stay in the loop on our exciting journey? Sign up for construction updates now! https://tinyurl.com/yckdnk3d

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Its very interesting to see Marigold NOT need to fill in the open Y pillars like TransEd said was necessary.
 
Yeggy said:
Its very interesting to see Marigold NOT need to fill in the open Y pillars like TransEd said was necessary.
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It wasn't the issue or Y pillars not being possible it was the due to the shape and structural support within the concrete for the versions TransEd built as I understand it.
 
archited said:
Also the OC spacing seems to be tighter, meaning less load per column.
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The design specs arent any different but I am NOT some sort of city double agent with access to all the secret answers,
 
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soupcrate said:
Woah, that's fantastic. Do you know when it starts? The transit app still shows 10 minutes.
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Nothing online seems updated with the 5 minute peak service. No announcement either. That could mean this is just some sort of stress test to run the 5 minute service with passengers, while the parallel bus service exists in case anything goes sideways. It wouldn't be good if in February they move to the 5 minute service and find problems and don't have buses available.
During peak periods end to end running time is reduced from 32 minutes to 29.5 minutes. This reduces roundtrip times to 65 minutes and means they only need 13 trains instead of 14. Off peak roundtrip times remain at 70 minutes with 32 minutes one way travel time.

Edit: just found this at the bottom of page in ETS website about LRT: "* Weekday peak times may increase to every 5 minutes after approximately 1 month of service."

So, I guess it was out there that 5 minute frequency could happen.
 
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Lets just poison the well before someone says it… “If only they had made x changes, it could if been 26.79 minuets. The project is an abject failure.”

For clarity : Poisoning the well is a type of informal fallacy where adverse information about a target is preemptively presented to an audience, with the intention of discrediting or ridiculing something that the target person is about to say.
 
Kosy123 said:
This is gonna sound like wishful thinking, but do you guys think that frequencies would increase in this line generally once VLW opens? Looking at their weekend frequencies, part of me thinks that's woefully inadequate when WEM gets connected to the network.
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Definitely yes. The VLW will probably command a higher and more frequent ridership than the VLSE.

It's not just WEM, but also connecting Oliver (our desenst and most populous neighborhood) and 124 st.
 
Yeggy said:
Its very interesting to see Marigold NOT need to fill in the open Y pillars like TransEd said was necessary.
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Well you see, these were designed correctly 🤣
IIRC TransEd said in their fuckup explainer video that the lack of sufficient rebar and design of the Y to have all three points along one line meant that lateral forces from the trains would crack them. Presumably Marigold put enough rebar in these pillars, as well as the crevice of the Y being higher than the sides so essentially they're already "filled in" like the repaired piers
 
ChazYEG said:
Definitely yes. The VLW will probably command a higher and more frequent ridership than the VLSE.

It's not just WEM, but also connecting Oliver (our desenst and most populous neighborhood) and 124 st.
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And West Block is miles ahead of Bonnie doon for decent TOD. If 1-2 more residential projects are finished before opening, and the retail continues to excel as well as it has, this will be a legit TOD hub compared to a previously existing major destination like the big malls and hospitals. VLSE doesn’t really have that yet.
 
thommyjo said:
And West Block is miles ahead of Bonnie doon for decent TOD. If 1-2 more residential projects are finished before opening, and the retail continues to excel as well as it has, this will be a legit TOD hub compared to a previously existing major destination like the big malls and hospitals. VLSE doesn’t really have that yet.
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In general, VLW crosses denser and more walkable areas, by virtue of crossing the heart of some older streetcar suburbs. I don't have the numbers, but if I had to bet, on top of WEM, MacEwan and Misericordia, as destinations, there's probably at least double the population being served by the VLW than by the VLSE
 
EdwardEdm said:
Nothing online seems updated with the 5 minute peak service. No announcement either. That could mean this is just some sort of stress test to run the 5 minute service with passengers, while the parallel bus service exists in case anything goes sideways. It wouldn't be good if in February they move to the 5 minute service and find problems and don't have buses available.
During peak periods end to end running time is reduced from 32 minutes to 29.5 minutes. This reduces roundtrip times to 65 minutes and means they only need 13 trains instead of 14. Off peak roundtrip times remain at 70 minutes with 32 minutes one way travel time.

Edit: just found this at the bottom of page in ETS website about LRT: "* Weekday peak times may increase to every 5 minutes after approximately 1 month of service."

So, I guess it was out there that 5 minute frequency could happen.
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Transed was contracted to be at 5 min. intervals from day one. The city asked for it to be reduced based on feedback from other operators/municipalities as per reporting.
 
ChazYEG said:
In general, VLW crosses denser and more walkable areas, by virtue of crossing the heart of some older streetcar suburbs. I don't have the numbers, but if I had to bet, on top of WEM, MacEwan and Misericordia, as destinations, there's probably at least double the population being served by the VLW than by the VLSE
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Ellis Don documents online put the entire line at 100k riders a day when fully built out.
 
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