The Quarters Hotel and Residences | 280.1m | 80s | Alldritt Land | KENNEDY

[Stevey_G]

I think a little bit of thread derailment is okay but a few pages is a bit much guys...can it be taken to private message or into a new thread? Some of us are eagerly anticipating the guaranteed announcement of this shovels ready project and clicking every notification that comes in.

 

[NicolBolas]

I think a little bit of thread derailment is okay but a few pages is a bit much guys...can it be taken to private message or into a new thread? Some of us are eagerly anticipating the guaranteed announcement of this shovels ready project and clicking every notification that comes in.

I heard the land got bought by a Saudi Prince and it's actually going to be a 117S building.

 

[inclusion]

I think a little bit of thread derailment is okay but a few pages is a bit much guys...can it be taken to private message or into a new thread? Some of us are eagerly anticipating the guaranteed announcement of this shovels ready project and clicking every notification that comes in.

And now on an unrelated topic, Quarter Hotel....

This project is never happening.

 

[Platinum107]

This project is never happening.

13 year old me is still holding out hope, okay

 

[archited]

I am still trying to find out why money was spent on Kennedy's plan --- then flipped to Dub's plan with what had to be an expensive structural engineering study and the promise of the opening of a promotion centre north of the Russian Orthodox Church (that at the time was supposed to have happened within a month of Qualico saying so)... how it all got shelved and why the project is still featured to this day on their website (mindful that what is shown there is the earlier Kennedy Plan and not the Dub plan. No explanations from anyone.

 

[Out of Towner]

The bricks that Alldritt's founder has reportedly saved for 40 years to be used in a legacy project seem destined to be saved for another 40 years.

 

[crisp]

@archited told me he spoke to Aldritt's janitor who confirmed this is still a go.

 

[FrankRizza]

I made a bet with a co worker in 2016. I said that if this project started within 10 years, I would pay him $1,000. If the project hadn’t started in 10 years, i would win the $1,000. Call Me nagative but I never thought this thing would ever happen. It seemed like a developer who had zero experience and has never built anything like the proposed project so it wasn’t that promising to me.

Now even though 10 years of inflation has ate up a lot of that $1,000, I’m still gonna enjoy spending it.

 

[johnnyboy]

I made a bet with a co worker in 2016. I said that if this project started within 10 years, I would pay him $1,000. If the project hadn’t started in 10 years, i would win the $1,000. Call Me nagative but I never thought this thing would ever happen. It seemed like a developer who had zero experience and has never built anything like the proposed project so it wasn’t that promising to me.

Now even though 10 years of inflation has ate up a lot of that $1,000, I’m still gonna enjoy spending it.

That's a nice little gift for New Year's Day!

 

[David A]

@archited told me he spoke to Aldritt's janitor who confirmed this is still a go.

Is that janitor also keeping custody of those 80 bricks, one for each year until it gets started?

 

[bodsbods9090]

I made a bet with a co worker in 2016. I said that if this project started within 10 years, I would pay him $1,000. If the project hadn’t started in 10 years, i would win the $1,000. Call Me nagative but I never thought this thing would ever happen. It seemed like a developer who had zero experience and has never built anything like the proposed project so it wasn’t that promising to me.

Now even though 10 years of inflation has ate up a lot of that $1,000, I’m still gonna enjoy spending it.

You taking us all out for lunch with that win?

 

[IanO]

I am still trying to find out why money was spent on Kennedy's plan --- then flipped to Dub's plan with what had to be an expensive structural engineering study and the promise of the opening of a promotion centre north of the Russian Orthodox Church (that at the time was supposed to have happened within a month of Qualico saying so)... how it all got shelved and why the project is still featured to this day on their website (mindful that what is shown there is the earlier Kennedy Plan and not the Dub plan. No explanations from anyone.

I believe, if memory serves me, that there was a falling out.

 

[kcantor]

I am still trying to find out why money was spent on Kennedy's plan --- then flipped to Dub's plan with what had to be an expensive structural engineering study and the promise of the opening of a promotion centre north of the Russian Orthodox Church (that at the time was supposed to have happened within a month of Qualico saying so)... how it all got shelved and why the project is still featured to this day on their website (mindful that what is shown there is the earlier Kennedy Plan and not the Dub plan. No explanations from anyone.

Sorry but I don't get your Qualico reference...

 

[archited]

Oh there was definitely a falling out @IanO; the lawyer who was in charge of the project at the time from the PR/concept-effectuation side is no longer there. He was so anxious to get the promotion trailer in place (they even had a full-on landscape/hardscape plan to go with the trailer, planned for the site in front of the Russian Orthodox Church). At the time he was going on and on about how the project was a legacy project to honor Stan Alldritt's role in the Riverdale Brick yard and his building that company and Alldritt Homes into one of the premier Alberta-owned companies in Edmonton for that era. I am guessing that someone on the money side internally decided that it was too big of a risk. The odd part that is hard to figure out is why the early stages of the project managed to get so far along -- from Kennedy's plan to Dub's plan and all of the Stantec engineering into footings and foundation design, multiple soils tests, mapping of the underground mine shafts, etc. -- all to no end. From a feasibility perspective projects, particularly of this scale, do not go so deep into resolution before getting cancelled altogether.
I still think the project is viable -- it has probably the best unobstructed (and destined to remain that way) river valley view in all of Edmonton overlooking, as it does, Louise McKinney Park and all of its features, the Muttart Conservatory, and Edmonton's new pedestrian/LRT bridge; it is right next door to the Convention Centre (hotel perspective); it is within walking distance of Edmonton's main cultural event sites -- AGA, Winspear, etc.; and, from a "futures perspective" it could lead the redevelopment of the Quarters.
Maybe the scale of the concept is too large for Alldritt Land -- personally I don't believe so, especially if the intention is to build a so-called "Legacy Project" for the company's historic founder.
If Edmonton only had some A-list investigative journalists, the story could be told. I would think that Alldritt Land partners would want to get ahead of that eventuality.

 

[archited]

Sorry but I don't get your Qualico reference...

a mental fart -- of course I meant Alldritt, not Qualico.