The Jameson | 53.95m | 17s | Open Sky | Acton Ostry

What do you think of this project?

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Is the lot to the north a different owner? Realistically they can't do anything with that lot until the pit is either built up or filled in.
If it is a different owner I'm surprised they haven't been speaking out about it being a huge burden to them.
 
SMayo said:
Is the lot to the north a different owner? Realistically they can't do anything with that lot until the pit is either built up or filled in.
If it is a different owner I'm surprised they haven't been speaking out about it being a huge burden to them.
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It used to be Nearctic, but is now for sale.
 
Avenuer said:
ooo boy, that Watson guy is a bit of a nut. Take everything he posts with a massive grain of iodized salt.
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I don't know anything about him, so I really can't say whether he is a nut or not. However, the point he is making here seems quite sensible.

There are a lot of long vacant lots downtown now and they are a problem. It would be better in my opinion to focus on dealing with this rather than attacking the messenger.
 
David A said:
I don't know anything about him, so I really can't say whether he is a nut or not. However, the point he is making here seems quite sensible.

There are a lot of long vacant lots downtown now and they are a problem. It would be better in my opinion to focus on dealing with this rather than attacking the messenger.
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Personally I find he has a tendency of just stiring the pot of things he disagrees with under the veil of "just asking questions". All his content is built on the premise of having his position and almost avoiding investigating why things may be done that way or limitations to Edmonton's responsibilities or powers.
 
devobersver said:
Personally I find he has a tendency of just stiring the pot of things he disagrees with under the veil of "just asking questions". All his content is built on the premise of having his position and almost avoiding investigating why things may be done that way or limitations to Edmonton's responsibilities or powers.
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Aka Ragebaiting
 
It's pretty easy to point fingers at city council and say that this is their fault but it's also pretty disingenuous. I think the problem with his content now is that its from a perspective of "If I wouldn't have lost we wouldn't have these problems", which is the easiest position in the world to take because he will never have to back it up.
 
SMayo said:
It's pretty easy to point fingers at city council and say that this is their fault but it's also pretty disingenuous. I think the problem with his content now is that its from a perspective of "If I wouldn't have lost we wouldn't have these problems", which is the easiest position in the world to take because he will never have to back it up.
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Yeah. Or just the tone of everything being a conspiracy and simple to fix is frustrating. There’s definitely stuff the city could do better. But not everything is a shady scandal.
 
devobersver said:
Personally I find he has a tendency of just stiring the pot of things he disagrees with under the veil of "just asking questions". All his content is built on the premise of having his position and almost avoiding investigating why things may be done that way or limitations to Edmonton's responsibilities or powers.
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Maybe questions should sometimes be ask or problems highlighted. Are we just supposed to pretend this hole in the ground is fine and everything here is great, just because the messenger doesn't correspond to someone else's political view?
 
It's not about not asking the question. Having an open pit like this is terrible and embarrassing. It's about not purposefully misrepresenting the facts. You'll notice that everything Mr. Watson says is  technically correct, but spun in such a way that the City looks like they went out of their way to do things wrong. And the audience that eats this stuff up does not have the necessary background knowledge, context, nor the ability to get those things. Mr. Watson is what happens when YEGWave runs for Council and loses.
 
Blizzard said:
It's not about not asking the question. Having an open pit like this is terrible and embarrassing. It's about not purposefully misrepresenting the facts. You'll notice that everything Mr. Watson says is  technically correct, but spun in such a way that the City looks like they went out of their way to do things wrong. And the audience that eats this stuff up does not have the necessary background knowledge, context, nor the ability to get those things. Mr. Watson is what happens when YEGWave runs for Council and loses.
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Well if what he says is technically correct, then there is a real problem. Of course, one undeveloped site while unfortunate, is not the only or greatest problem the city has to deal with.

However, I get the sense his real crime here may be stirring the pot to much or embarrassing those who for whatever reasons haven't been able to deal with this or similar sites so far.

However, the civic election is over and there will not be one for several years, so not quite sure what else he really expects to accomplish, other than bring some attention to such problems.

So I would still say to those in our civic government, be smart and get on with fixing this and related problems, this is really the best way to make the problematic messenger go away.
 
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