archited
Senior Member
Need I remind you that all downtowns from a retail perspective are getting hammered. That said, your obvious distain for Edmonton continually shows through.
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IanO
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Actually, tough love and well aware of that, but very few if any cities (especially in Canada) have such dismal offerings in the cores.
But hey, others have issues too SO IT'S OK!
But hey, others have issues too SO IT'S OK!
archited
Senior Member
NO IT'S NOT... but you might try framing a little constructive criticism instead of your continual blitzkrieg.
jason403
Active Member
However most people don't live downtown and probably don't want to be forced to drive downtown for such amenities. Traffic and parking are always more difficult downtown than other parts of the city.
In the past it was necessary to have downtowns to serve an entire city with unique experiences and retail. That may no longer be the case.
How many people here have actually been downtown lately and ventured beyond the Ice District? There are a LOT of empty podiums, specifically in places that just before the pandemic were bustling.
Being the realist that I am, Simons is a pipe dream for downtown Edmonton if they are struggling in Calgary that has at least double the downtown population of Edmonton, if not more. I think Henry Singer will do well in Ice District. More exposure will do them well. A ton of people don't even know they have a store in Manulife. Hit up a hockey game and drop a bunch of cash on a new pair of jeans or buy a suit if that is what you're after. Simons would have to be closer to ID to effectively catch those crowds. People don't venture very far for offerings if they aren't unique. Simons isn't unique to Edmonton.
Yes, Calgary downtown has some other options, Harry Rosen, BB, etc that compete with some of Simons offerings. However, so does Edmonton with HS, the Helm, and a few other shops.
Being the realist that I am, Simons is a pipe dream for downtown Edmonton if they are struggling in Calgary that has at least double the downtown population of Edmonton, if not more. I think Henry Singer will do well in Ice District. More exposure will do them well. A ton of people don't even know they have a store in Manulife. Hit up a hockey game and drop a bunch of cash on a new pair of jeans or buy a suit if that is what you're after. Simons would have to be closer to ID to effectively catch those crowds. People don't venture very far for offerings if they aren't unique. Simons isn't unique to Edmonton.
Yes, Calgary downtown has some other options, Harry Rosen, BB, etc that compete with some of Simons offerings. However, so does Edmonton with HS, the Helm, and a few other shops.
itom987
Active Member
I didn't see any retail suffering in downtown Toronto, the whole place looked healthy.
Clearshades
Senior Member
I get your point generally, but WEM was/is an exception and shouldn't be compared to ID. WEM was a brand-new conception and ahead of its time hence why it became so famously worldwide and has established itself as a destination - even today. I will agree that the I-District will become successful down the road; the only question is when? If there is only a specific demographic living downtown, it will be a failure. If ID is a community central entertainment hub, we need a COMMUNITY, so where and when is that community coming about?
IanO
Superstar
Just major menswear options in YYCDT:
The Bay
Simons
Holt
HR
Club Monaco
H&M
Gap
Tip Top
Banana Republic
Brookes Brothers
Browns
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We used to have four of these, maybe more? Did we ever have Tip Top downtown or Le Chateau perhaps? Gap, Bay, Club Monaco, and Holt that I recall.
kcantor
Senior Member
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and henry singer
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both were in city centre if my memory is correct.
and henry singer
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both were in city centre if my memory is correct.
JNO1
Active Member
For sure Tip Top. And if memory serves me, Le Chateau as well.
God
Active Member
To be fair Le chateau was failing in many locations around the city and not just ecc.
David A
Senior Member
That argument is just nonsense. In a city of around a million, most people do not live in any one area. For instance, most people in Edmonton don't live close to WEM, South Common or Southgate or Londonderry either.
People are being forced to drive greater distances here, because there is nothing close by. Every neighbourhood deserves a decent level of goods and services. People who live downtown should not be treated as second class citizens, dismissed or looked down upon.
David A
Senior Member
Clearshades
Senior Member
Correct that both were in City Centre.
As per retail in general, just follow the American markets where Amazon has taken over. Many retail giants are on the verge of bankruptcy nor closing out.