Nah man, nothing makes me feel like a place is bumping like a handful of closed banks at 9pm.At risk of being labeled ageist… look how well this trendy clothing store targeting youth/young adults is doing on whyte ave. I still think Ice District would benefit from the clout of stores like this and it would help rebrand our downtown in the eyes of its future potential residents.
I think 9 pm is optimistic - doesn't City Centre close earlier than that? Yes, little downtown is open late but that goes beyond the bank to "safety issues" or maybe perceptions.Nah man, nothing makes me feel like a place is bumping like a handful of closed banks at 9pm.
You lead the way. Other than Rice Howard Way, 104 St and right around the arena you wouldn't catch me walking around downtown by myself after 10:00. Nope nope nope the crazies love the dark, dingy downtown too much for me to risk it, and believe me I am not a person who lives in fear, just your average dude exercising common sense.I think 9 pm is optimistic - doesn't City Centre close earlier than that? Yes, little downtown is open late but that goes beyond the bank to "safety issues" or maybe perceptions.
Somehow lots of other cities manage to keep retail stores open in the evening, but apparently downtown is too scary for Edmontonians to venture into after dark.
There are some legitimate issues, but we also need to get a grip on things and quit falling prey to fear.
As if downtown is the only place something bad ever happened to someone stumbling out of a bar. Whyte Ave is full of such stories too.My buddy was walking by himself after some drinks at about midnight and got robbed and assaulted by a couple vagrants just west of Home and Away Bar. You take your chances I guess.
You are the one who started providing anecdotal accounts of it being safe to walk around downtown, so I provided an anecdotal example of that not necessarily being accurate. Of course there is risk no matter where you go of violence occurring if alcohol is involved, that goes without saying. However, with the high number of homeless people downtown with significant substance abuse and mental health problems, I think the risk is more significant than your average community. One just has to walk around downtown during the day, let alone at night, and see the number of homeless people yelling at themselves or other people because they are either in a drug induced psychosis or have severe mental health problems, or both. Those are not the people I want to encounter at night by myself. If you are comfortable doing so have at it, but to suggest people are overreacting with their concern is nonsense.As if downtown is the only place something bad ever happened to someone stumbling out of a bar. Whyte Ave is full of such stories too.
More than a few murders have happened on Whyte Ave, yet somehow everyone still goes there and its considered relatively safe.
Haha fret not, I still go out downtown, just don’t walk around by myself when it’s late. I think more people being downtown will partially work towards resolving peoples concerns about safety. Unfortunately, I don’t think people are going to venture into other parts of downtown other than 104 St, Ice District and Rice Howard Way outside of the weekend until there is significant improvements to the infrastructure so it feels much more walkable and safe. Good news is it’s miles ahead where it was five years ago.Sucks that happened to your friend. However, the only way to really prevent things like that happening is by going out. If everyone thinks it’s unsafe and doesn’t go out then it would make it easier for muggers to mug people like that that are just stragglers walking around alone. I go out a lot and over the past 3 years I’ve seen lots of things change. When covid first hit, people were at home and no one was going out to bars for drinks. When bars first started opening up again last year, people were just starting to ease to it and there weren’t a crazy amount of people out and about. Which made shady people way more noticeable, and those shady people had they had shady intentions wouldn’t have many eyes to worry about. Things right now have gotten way better over the summer. Edmonton last year felt like a small town compared to now. Plenty of people walking out and about at night and that’s what you need in a city. More people outside makes people feel safe compared to everyone in hiding at home complaining about safety. Sucks what happened to your friend really. I promise you the same thing would’ve happened to him in Vancouver, Toronto and Calgary tho.